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While BR has bought poorly (in hindsight) - it should also be stated that FSG put so many stipulations on how any money is to be spent. They demand a certain profile, base everything on stats and resale potential, and cap all our spending at 25 mil per player. This means we can never truly compete with our rivals. So we need a top manager - but we also need any manager we have to not be hamstrung by the owners. BR has bought poorly, nothing to do with hindsight, easy to call it before they even signed on the dotted line. There is 0 evidence in the players we've gone through that they base 'everything on stats' so that gets chucked right out as well. Everything else I agree with, under FSG policies Liverpool will never compete with the big boys, it's just impossible. But also with such policies, it's imperative that we have a manager who's strength lies in getting value for money, Rodgers has consistently failed to do this in epic proportions. So I'd deal with that more immediate problem hamstringing us in getting into the top 4 (Rodgers), then worry about the obstacle to the top spots which is FSG. Nope - not having that. Everyone raved about Lovren before and during the transfer window last summer. Now everyone says he's a shyte signing. Can't have it both ways matey. 1 player who I've said countless times is the exception whereby I actually thought he was good and hasn't panned out. 20 million pounds out of over 200 million, or 120+ million if you only count last summer. I'm afraid I'm the one not having that matey, concentrating on one player out of a sea of signings that didn't require hindsight for most (you might have needed it but you can't assume everyone is at that level).
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While BR has bought poorly (in hindsight) - it should also be stated that FSG put so many stipulations on how any money is to be spent. They demand a certain profile, base everything on stats and resale potential, and cap all our spending at 25 mil per player. This means we can never truly compete with our rivals. So we need a top manager - but we also need any manager we have to not be hamstrung by the owners. It's not really 'hindsight' though is it? most of his signings have been a surprise...either because of the fee, or the fact that they were unknown or not regarded as being very good. It's not as if we were all excited about the signings of lambert, ballotelli, lallana, allen, borini, markovic, manquillo & moreno. Sturridge aside, the only player we got that I was looking forward to seeing was Sahin, but rodgers played him out of position so he left. If we'd got the targets we were after then things would have been very different.....sanchez, konoplyanka, sneijder, mkhitaryan, salah, depay..... ...but we failed and ended up with far inferior players even though we were EPL runners up. THAT was our time to go for it and anyone involved on our transfers must now leave because they failed the club big time. Top post.
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What infuriates me is it's ok to spend £45 million on a Lallana and Lovren and wages of about what £170k a week combined, yet £35 million on one real top player and a salary of maybe £180-£200k a week is off limits! If we repeat this formula we could have had 4 or 5 great players instead of a team of bangers.
We all speculate on this because of a lack of transparency but surely there has to be one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?
I am baffled by it I really am and it's been going on rinse and repeat more or less for 5 years!
It's the stuff of Loony Tunes. Spot on Top4, And if there is "one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?” its pretty obvious that FSG, either ignores or over rules their views, and its full steam ahead with multiple potential, and quantity over quality year on year! Rodgers has been calling for quality over quantity for the last two years and is being obviously ignored.
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What infuriates me is it's ok to spend £45 million on a Lallana and Lovren and wages of about what £170k a week combined, yet £35 million on one real top player and a salary of maybe £180-£200k a week is off limits! If we repeat this formula we could have had 4 or 5 great players instead of a team of bangers.
We all speculate on this because of a lack of transparency but surely there has to be one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?
I am baffled by it I really am and it's been going on rinse and repeat more or less for 5 years!
It's the stuff of Loony Tunes. Spot on Top4, And if there is "one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?” its pretty obvious that FSG, either ignores or over rules their views, and its full steam ahead with multiple potential, and quantity over quality year on year! Rodgers has been calling for quality over quantity for the last two years and is being obviously ignored. If that were the case, then he should have done the honorable thing and quit.
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What infuriates me is it's ok to spend £45 million on a Lallana and Lovren and wages of about what £170k a week combined, yet £35 million on one real top player and a salary of maybe £180-£200k a week is off limits! If we repeat this formula we could have had 4 or 5 great players instead of a team of bangers.
We all speculate on this because of a lack of transparency but surely there has to be one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?
I am baffled by it I really am and it's been going on rinse and repeat more or less for 5 years!
It's the stuff of Loony Tunes. Spot on Top4, And if there is "one sharp tool in the shed who sees the madness in this?” its pretty obvious that FSG, either ignores or over rules their views, and its full steam ahead with multiple potential, and quantity over quality year on year! Rodgers has been calling for quality over quantity for the last two years and is being obviously ignored. If that were the case, then he should have done the honorable thing and quit. Said he honorably!
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FSG thinks it can churn out multiple suarezs down the track by buying lots of potential Ie
You buy 7 or 8 young potentials at 7 to ten mil max 80 mil
They think if we can develope 3 or 4 in to 50 mil players like sterling sort of !
They will be quids ahead so won't mater the other 3 or 4 don't make it there still on a very nice wicket ! but in the mean time our team falters on the park due to lack of TCP in the team ! I think we all know that's what there up too really don't take too many 50 mil players to pay back what they paid for Lfc does it
Only problem is who ever is scouting these potentials must be a dick as Hardley any shape up to be worthy buys IMO of course In essence, and put in simple terms, they're GAMBING, gambling with the clubs future and hoping to get the three coconuts all in a line then?
Last edited by Growler; 28/05/15 09:32 AM.
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Fsg ....playing lucky dip....with lfc...
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every decision is a gamble. football is all about calculated risks.
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