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Hope you are right but I am sure that Sunderland will be up for a result following last night's gloom.

Actually looking at NT's away record they have conceeded 8 goals in 4 games so albeit in xt we kept that average up! but they had only scored 3 and not won one of their 4 games .....[oops] it I'll get me coat I am totally depressed plus sick of people taking the pssi all day - "Bartender"!!!!

yep we are becoming the humor of the premiership

Total rubbish, those lads getting their chance should have been fired up to the max just at the prospect of proving themselves. If a manager needs to wind those players up in a situation like that then we should get rid of them now.

Did any of the youngsters actually do well ?

They would have been fired up regardless, of course, but Roy piled the pressure on them and I think it got to them. Saying stuff like "We need to know the players who play can stand up and handle these challenges. If they can't and they crumble, then you'd have to ask big questions about their ability to become Liverpool players in the future" before the game is not, IMO, the way to go.

I mean, he practically told them he didn't know whether they were good enough, and they'd be out if they didn't win this one game. That approach works on some players, but it gets others thinking too much about the future and the potential impact of every single thing they do when they should just be concentrating on the game.

Meanwhile the Cobblers were told that they had nothing to lose, so go out there, enjoy themselves, have a go, and make sure they had no regrets.

I think you could see that reflected on the pitch.

Anyway, that's not to say I think Roy should be fired or anything. He blew this one, no doubt, and I can't say I'm not concerned about the approach he's been taking, but it's early days and there's still time to turn it around.

If u wanna criticise roy for something about the game, criticize his tactics and how he sets his teams up. Its not like hes got the first 11 playing well then the youth players didn't step up on the night, every single team he has put out for us has played absolutely sh!t, worst football in the league! Where's the common denominator? Roy

shevely did well its a shame roy only decided to bring him on after 90 mins. the game was crying out for him to be put on alot earlier, personally i think if sheverly had started instead of spearing or lucas we would have won the game in 90mins

IMO this is excacly the way he should motivate the young players - you can't tell them "you are still young, you have time, you are hot prospect, and other cr@p" - They are PROFFETIONAL FOOTBALLERS for crying out loud!!! They need to deliver - they need to show that they can take responsibility on them durring the game, that they are better that League Two division - not because Gerrard and Torres are in the team to "take cover" but because they are better! And apparently most of them isn't - the other case is - they isn't and they won't be, or they isn't yet. How you can expect now, for example Babel, to take responsibility on himself during PremierLeague game?

They blew their chance - and it's not Roy's foult.
Don't get me wrong - we are out of CC - and that is Roy's foult - but IMO - he took the risk of beeing knocked of in favour of protecting best players - and I agree with that!

No, it's not one or the other, it's not pile on the pressure as much as possible or no pressure at all. Neither extreme is the way to go. Pile on too much and they will choke on it, don't give them any and they won't push themselves.

They should be being told that if they work hard they'll get chances, and when they get those chances to relax, enjoy their football, and show what they can do. To concentrate on their football, and let the future take care of itself.

Telling someone that they might not be good enough and if they don't deliver right now they're probably out is a bloody moronic way to try to get the best out of them IMO.