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so whos to blame for it then? rafa....

i didn't see the game which is good giving these comments
well, if you are a good coach you don't necessarily need big names, at least you put your tactics (if there is any) with just the right players on it, its normal that you keep observing and changing at first, also a flaw or two can be acceptable but you just can't look like that and push it !!!, all respect to Roy's expierences but Fulham weren't really that good last year too (12th place), i'd give him only two or three more months

Didn't get to catch the game, but i am in shock. I know it's the Carling cup and all, but cmon...to Northampton? This was one of the competitions we could have gotten silverware from, but this game just shows how the season has gone so far. I do respect Roy , and I do think he was the right man for the job at this point but you can see the players lack confidence. I will continue to support Roy and the players because I have to...through these tough times we need to somehow stay positive, and hope that it will get better.

Trust me mate ure one of the lucky ones if you missed the game. Never seen a Liverpool team play so badly.

The one main thing I had a problem with over this display was that while we were fielding a great youth team, we didn't have the sense to have big guns on our bench as a fail safe. I also was peeved to see that we finally gave Pacheco a chance after he nearly walked during summer for not being played, and we played him out of position in favour of a lack lustre Babel. I also think we waited waay too long to make changes when we were already losing to a much poorer team. The thing is, they were the better team on the night. We lost due to tactics, and an ill judged team sheet - Something which reminds me all too much of the problems of the last regime.

Let us pray that funding comes through soon, not only to bolster our sagging team, but also because once again spirits are lagging due to all the nonsense off-pitch.

The next few weeks will be probably the most tense in Liverpool's long history, and so much rests on the backs of a board which we all have worries about.

I'll be crossing all my appendages and hoping they don't fall off...

YNWA

[quote=Rafarendum]Let's see how we're playing at Christmas. We're not even playing the way Roy wants us to play yet. I'm not happy either with how we've started the season or worse how we've played, but very few managers can change things for the better in just over a month, and that's all the time he's had with most of the squad.

It's not Roy's team yet, they haven't had enough time to learn how he wants them to play, and his training hasn't had enough time to show an effect. So far, no fan should be impresses, but it is early.

Agree it takes a manager time but this result is a joke. The fact Roy didn't make a change until the 99th minute is a big problem. He's admitted the team didn't play well till the last 15 minutes of extra time so why did he not make a change earlier if we weren't playing well?! Pressure's well and truely on Roy. I haven't seen one performance yet from this team that excites me. We are not pressing teams that we should be. Thats down to the coach.

You're all a bunch of whining girls! This is what we've been calling for for the past few weeks. We got what we wanted, and now it's Roy's fault? Come on!

We wanted to see the youth/fringe players on the pitch in a game they could express themselves. We wanted to see whether they could handle the pressure. There was no better opportunity than last night and they utterly failed to make the best of it.

Now I'll admit that the manager also chooses the tactics, and perhaps he may have got those wrong, but on talent alone Northampton should not have come to Anfield and forced us into extra time. But the truth is these guys we've been pinning our hopes on just showed they aren't all that, and will have taken staggering blows to their confidence to boot. Several of them will need to pick themselves up and for the next Europa Cup game as well.

Roy needs to start getting more involved in the games as well though - the malady that our senior teams can't find their way out of a paper bag needs to be addressed with a more hands-on approach. Bit less arm around the shoulder, a bit more hand on the whip.

So were their any positives? Jovanovic got on the scoresheet - that will help him tremendously. N'Gog scored again - good to know he hasn't fallen off the bus as well. Kelly seems to have had a good game. But did the other 8 starters do anything for their reputations, including Kyrgiakos (who some of us want in the first team), Agger (ditto), Lucas (who many want us to sell), Babel (who needed to show something), Pacheco (who we've been desperate to have on the pitch).

If the answer is that these 8 players were all equally wretched, then we're in a lot more trouble than any manager could handle, unless you can prove that they were all played out of position or our tactics were completely incorrect for the entire 120 mins.

Either way Roy's going to have to pull us out of this mess; the true test of his management ability just started. We have 5 "easy" EPL games in a row, so he needs to show that he can restore us to winning ways, and the second team will need some rebuilding and encouragement for Europa. He succeeds or fails over the next few weeks, tbh, and if we get new owners before December he will be judged primarily how where he manages to take us between now and then. If we're still playing rubbish football with our entire squad then he won't see January.

its not about the youth/fringe players thundyr, i actually think our XI was very good, its just Roy and what he's doing (or not doing) with our very good players, look at inter for example, they have the same squad that Mourinho had but they are not giving the same (not that they are bad), anyway its right the real test for Roy just started

I didnt watch the game myself as it was 6 in the morning and didnt think it would be good to wake up for but after i woke up checked the results, i just couldnt believe it, im just shell shocked, I dont know what to say, Is this the same liverpool that knocked any team that came to Anfield a few years back? My confidence as a fan is just so low right now I am not looking forward to the Sunderland game....sorry lads

I see us winning well on saturday , i think our first 11 is a good side and will gain a little bit of confidence from the manure game , 3-1 pool