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very true! next week will be the decider where Xabi's concerned.
I just hope all this hype is just paper bollox and just that.
Xabi seems happy at Anfield so why the big change of heart all of a sudden?
OK Madrid have made moves to sign him but most clubs would like Xabi in their squad. He'd be flattered and maybe tempted but it doesn't mean he wants out. He hasn't come out and said it has he? So all we get to hear is agents stirring [oops], madrid's mind games and the media making mountains out of mole hills.
Doesn't really make much sense... paper talk? Let's hope so.
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I really still feel that Xabi will stay. Don't know why but I have for a long time. Not so confident on Masch staying but to be honest, if we were to get 30 mill + I wouldn't be too disappointed. This would open up some options in the transfer market and give Spearing a chance to play more.
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your fairly spot on on how you summed up the campaign ,we always start the season playing horrible football-i hope this year is different and i feel it may well be-
rafa is too cagey no doubt about that at all and for me the newcastle game was a disaster-cause it gave us false vindication-newcastle are very unprofessional and we played them off the park with lucas looking a player- lucas then started a few games and he just isn't up to it. but you have to give rafa credit for the the way he gets his teams fit and prepared and always giving 100%-what gives me more optimism for next season is the johnson signing-he is a class player but not only that he is an out and out attacking fullback which has to alter the mindset. i can just see alonso's raking passes picking him out out wide. i reckon we are going to win the league then we are all going to say how much we love him sorry am afraid your kidding yourself of you think we are going to win the league, we dont have enough good players and that as the Spaniard says is a fact you cant win the league with just two top class players like we have, Benitez will be gone at the end of next season mark my words, should be gone this one though in all honesty, 5 seasons without the league and 3 seasons without a trophy is an absoulute disgrace in my book especialy when he has spent over 200 million pounds, you just keep on telling yourself we are going to win the league and we will soon be up to the 26 years it took United to win the title, its already 20 years and counting. Hes spent $112 million pounds not $200million at least attempt to use the right facts rather than just spouting this utter dribble.
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now to try and rub salt in the wounds, un-real come back with another bid for alonso £3m less than their first offer!
Are they ill or something? Cheeky buggas! The heat must be effecting their brains!
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Rafa will only sell if he gets an offer of 40 million + or if Alonso says he wants out.
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your fairly spot on on how you summed up the campaign ,we always start the season playing horrible football-i hope this year is different and i feel it may well be-
rafa is too cagey no doubt about that at all and for me the newcastle game was a disaster-cause it gave us false vindication-newcastle are very unprofessional and we played them off the park with lucas looking a player- lucas then started a few games and he just isn't up to it. but you have to give rafa credit for the the way he gets his teams fit and prepared and always giving 100%-what gives me more optimism for next season is the johnson signing-he is a class player but not only that he is an out and out attacking fullback which has to alter the mindset. i can just see alonso's raking passes picking him out out wide. i reckon we are going to win the league then we are all going to say how much we love him sorry am afraid your kidding yourself of you think we are going to win the league, we dont have enough good players and that as the Spaniard says is a fact you cant win the league with just two top class players like we have, Benitez will be gone at the end of next season mark my words, should be gone this one though in all honesty, 5 seasons without the league and 3 seasons without a trophy is an absoulute disgrace in my book especialy when he has spent over 200 million pounds, you just keep on telling yourself we are going to win the league and we will soon be up to the 26 years it took United to win the title, its already 20 years and counting. Hes spent $112 million pounds not $200million at least attempt to use the right facts rather than just spouting this utter dribble. what are you talking about he has been given over 200 million to spend Keane, Mascherano and Torres have come to close on 60 million alone which is more than half of what your saying, please talk sense if your going to spout
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[quote=emperor rafa]your fairly spot on on how you summed up the campaign ,we always start the season playing horrible football-i hope this year is different and i feel it may well be-
rafa is too cagey no doubt about that at all and for me the newcastle game was a disaster-cause it gave us false vindication-newcastle are very unprofessional and we played them off the park with lucas looking a player- lucas then started a few games and he just isn't up to it. but you have to give rafa credit for the the way he gets his teams fit and prepared and always giving 100%-what gives me more optimism for next season is the johnson signing-he is a class player but not only that he is an out and out attacking fullback which has to alter the mindset. i can just see alonso's raking passes picking him out out wide. i reckon we are going to win the league then we are all going to say how much we love him sorry am afraid your kidding yourself of you think we are going to win the league, we dont have enough good players and that as the Spaniard says is a fact you cant win the league with just two top class players like we have, Benitez will be gone at the end of next season mark my words, should be gone this one though in all honesty, 5 seasons without the league and 3 seasons without a trophy is an absoulute disgrace in my book especialy when he has spent over 200 million pounds, you just keep on telling yourself we are going to win the league and we will soon be up to the 26 years it took United to win the title, its already 20 years and counting. Hes spent $112 million pounds not $200million at least attempt to use the right facts rather than just spouting this utter dribble. what are you talking about he has been given over 200 million to spend Keane, Mascherano and Torres have come to close on 60 million alone which is more than half of what your saying, please talk sense if your going to spout [/quote] Ged when you are talking about how much he has spent you have to take into account how much he has got back through sales.
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[quote=gedthered09][quote=emperor rafa]your fairly spot on on how you summed up the campaign ,we always start the season playing horrible football-i hope this year is different and i feel it may well be-
rafa is too cagey no doubt about that at all and for me the newcastle game was a disaster-cause it gave us false vindication-newcastle are very unprofessional and we played them off the park with lucas looking a player- lucas then started a few games and he just isn't up to it. but you have to give rafa credit for the the way he gets his teams fit and prepared and always giving 100%-what gives me more optimism for next season is the johnson signing-he is a class player but not only that he is an out and out attacking fullback which has to alter the mindset. i can just see alonso's raking passes picking him out out wide. i reckon we are going to win the league then we are all going to say how much we love him sorry am afraid your kidding yourself of you think we are going to win the league, we dont have enough good players and that as the Spaniard says is a fact you cant win the league with just two top class players like we have, Benitez will be gone at the end of next season mark my words, should be gone this one though in all honesty, 5 seasons without the league and 3 seasons without a trophy is an absoulute disgrace in my book especialy when he has spent over 200 million pounds, you just keep on telling yourself we are going to win the league and we will soon be up to the 26 years it took United to win the title, its already 20 years and counting. Hes spent $112 million pounds not $200million at least attempt to use the right facts rather than just spouting this utter dribble. what are you talking about he has been given over 200 million to spend Keane, Mascherano and Torres have come to close on 60 million alone which is more than half of what your saying, please talk sense if your going to spout [/quote] Ged when you are talking about how much he has spent you have to take into account how much he has got back through sales. [/quote]Joelkeeper am sorry you dont take into consideration what he has brought in at all, no matter which way you dress it up the mad Spaniard has been given over 200 million pound to spend out on players he has wanted to sign. You talk about money he has brought in well answer me this name one single player Benitez has been forced to sell apart from Michael Owen that he has wanted to keep and has'nt been able to, the answer is none because he has wanted shut of everyone he has sold. nobody is interested on net spending, fans are only interested in whats on the pitch not at the bottom of a balance sheet and the cold hard facts are that Benitez has spent over 200 million on bringing players in to win us a league and still not delivered, if you lost 500 pound down a grid and found a 20 pound a bit later you would'nt tell people you lost 480 pound would you, thats why net spending load of rubbish, when people talk about Chelsea and Abramavic and what he has spent they dont talk about what he has brought in do they only the enormous amount he has shelled out, same as United and the Glaziers they only talk about how much dept the club is in not how much Revenue United make profit each season.
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You have to take it all into account mate, that's why he is called a MANAGER. His job isn't only to manage the players it is to manage the spending (more so now that Parry has left).
And do you honestly think that the 200 million as you have said was only shelled out by the club? Some of the money he has used has come from selling players....wanted or not. Simple fact of the matter is that for him to be able to spend that much is because he has also sold at the same time, so saying you can't take it into account is daft. It's all part of the same picture.
If you want me to simplify it for you, it's like if you have an old telly and want to get a new one. You don't have enough money for the new one and will not have a use for the old telly once you have the new one, so you take it down to Cash Converters, get some money for it and use that money towards getting the new telly. Same same, just on a bigger scale. He has had to sell to buy so you HAVE to take the sales into account.
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No it is completely about economics. He wouldn't have that money to spend unless he sold. Ged's point is that he has been thrown this moeny and he has wasted it. He has had to raise alot of it himself through shrewd business in the market.
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