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hold on Coxy, I think I'll join you!

its a waste of time talking to ged - he makes emp seem like an intelligent and reasonable human being ...... well almost

Ged has an opinion; he's entitled to that. Football is a game of opinions and makes for great debate.

Trepie, at the very least, whether Ged's opinion is valid or not, he relays it in a structured, straight to the point, easy to understand, and almost grammatically perfect manner. And yet, due to your lack of will/knowledge, you insult his inteligence levels in a manner that only serves to demonstrate your lack of inteligence.

Think a new thread should be started for a debate as this thread is supposed to be about Masch and Alonso.
I hope Rafa proves his doubters wrong
YWNWA

*yawns* the difference is ged spouts the same crap over and over and refuses to take anyone else's opinion on board or listen to what they have to say

that shows an insulting lack of respect for others - i don't care about his use of grammar any over-educated fool can use proper grammar - intelligence is about learning from others and using your brain to think not regurgitate the same rubbish over and over

Football is all about opinions as previously pointed out, just because you happen to disagree with something does make it automaticaly wrong you should try and remember that instead of trying to be insulting. I do take peoples opinions on board but feel alot of people on here not to mention on other forum's are talking with there hearts instead of there heads, I do feel last season's second place was false one and happen to think we are not just a couple of points behind United but the gap is much wider in terms of class between the clubs, I happen to think Chelsea are a better team than us as well even though we finished ahead of them, I think if Guus Hiddink was manager of Chelsea at the start of the season instead of Scolari then Chelsea would of been champions and not United, I think there is not much difference in teams ability between us and Arsenal. Last season we only competed for two trophies the Premier League and Champions League while our rivals Arsenal, Chelsea and United competed for four trophies up until April because of this it helped us do better in the league because we never had league cups or F.A.Cups to worry about this is why we finished the season so strongly, would of been interesting to see if we would of still finished second if we competed for everything like our three rivals did.

I just dont think Benitez is good enough to win the league, his tactics are very poor and has never really got to gripps with the english Premier League since he came. We were well out of contention before xmas in his first four seasons and last season was our best chance yet with United starting the season pretty poor and having to travel half way round the world to play in Japan and Chelsea in disaray with a new manager in Scolari that was our best chance to exploit our rivals which because of Benitez and his mouth we never. Up until xmas last season we were very poor we struggled from one game to another and were even getting booed off by our own fans in a couple of games but somehow we managed to pick up points and this left us with a good chance going into the new year. One thing that did stand out for me is that the team could'nt cope with pressure when we were leading the league we struggled our performances were woeful with late and injury time goals common place bailing us out Middlesborough home, Wigan home and Man City away when we were getting beat 2-0 until they had a man sent off and we ended up winning in injury time. Because we could'nt handle the pressure it was baffling why Benitez decided to heap more pressure on us with his outburst a few days after our best performance of the season against Newcastle away, to talk about Ferguson and United when we were not even playing them was beyond belief and as you know if you say things you have to have the ability to back it up and our next three performances were draws against Stoke, Wigan and Everton which effectively finished our league campagn there and then, which we never recovered from. Dont be fooled by the way we finished the season with fantastic attacking football which at times was a joy to watch, you wont see us start the season like that it's not the Spaniards way he only played that way because the league realisticaly was lost and we could play without pressure, next season we will go back to Benitez style of cagey, tactical and mind numbing football mark my words.

See Rafa has got his first moan of the season in already , saying the money is crazy , well haven't liverpool just spent 17-18 millions on a full back and he is moaning about what other team spend , get on with it rafa just tell the team's wanting our players to f-off and instead of moaning do the job .

sorry am afraid your kidding yourself of you think we are going to win the league, we dont have enough good players and that as the Spaniard says is a fact you cant win the league with just two top class players like we have, Benitez will be gone at the end of next season mark my words, should be gone this one though in all honesty, 5 seasons without the league and 3 seasons without a trophy is an absoulute disgrace in my book especialy when he has spent over 200 million pounds, you just keep on telling yourself we are going to win the league and we will soon be up to the 26 years it took United to win the title, its already 20 years and counting.

This is a quote from Rafas press release, which is so true:
"Don't forget we signed Alonso from Real Sociedad when nobody knew about him and we renewed his contract two years ago, so he was happy then, and you know what happened with Mascherano at West Ham before we brought him here. Both players owe a lot to Liverpool. They owe Liverpool some loyalty and they both know that."