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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong. Better if they didnt loan anything as you dont reimbursement capital projects so fast, did you know the repayments were going to be that fast, never heard? How long do you take to repay mortgages? Other owners are gifting their clubs, these ones cant even give long term loans, but of course you'll see this as normal, not sure why? I will just stop spending on the club as you, I might feel a bit better then Oh dear. Looks like the dummy is right and the genius wrong  I don’t know how long the loan or the size of the repayments. The report says it’s now interest free too which you won’t get at a bank. My mortgage was over 25 years but if I had the money I’d pay it in 5 or 10 years. I can’t afford to do won’t but if the club can afford to pay it back quickly then why not? I’m not entirely sure what you mean by ‘the others’. Not particularly legible?? I think it’ll take more than you not spending on the club to make you feel better. Pathological misery must be hard to shake. But you can do what you want with your money as can anyone. Spend it on the club or don’t. Your choice.
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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong. Better if they didnt loan anything as you dont reimbursement capital projects so fast, did you know the repayments were going to be that fast, never heard? How long do you take to repay mortgages? Other owners are gifting their clubs, these ones cant even give long term loans, but of course you'll see this as normal, not sure why? I will just stop spending on the club as you, I might feel a bit better then Oh dear. Looks like the dummy is right and the genius wrong I don’t know how long the loan or the size of the repayments. The report says it’s now interest free too which you won’t get at a bank. My mortgage was over 25 years but if I had the money I’d pay it in 5 or 10 years. I can’t afford to do won’t but if the club can afford to pay it back quickly then why not? I’m not entirely sure what you mean by ‘the others’. Not particularly legible?? I think it’ll take more than you not spending on the club to make you feel better. Pathological misery must be hard to shake. But you can do what you want with your money as can anyone. Spend it on the club or don’t. Your choice. Do you even know what the interest rate have been lately? And yes, if you had money you would have preferred that, sure, but if we could have used that money to buy a player or 2 we might have won the treble in our best ever season. Look at City, they go to win everything not like us.
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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong. Better if they didnt loan anything as you dont reimbursement capital projects so fast, did you know the repayments were going to be that fast, never heard? How long do you take to repay mortgages? Other owners are gifting their clubs, these ones cant even give long term loans, but of course you'll see this as normal, not sure why? I will just stop spending on the club as you, I might feel a bit better then Oh dear. Looks like the dummy is right and the genius wrong I don’t know how long the loan or the size of the repayments. The report says it’s now interest free too which you won’t get at a bank. My mortgage was over 25 years but if I had the money I’d pay it in 5 or 10 years. I can’t afford to do won’t but if the club can afford to pay it back quickly then why not? I’m not entirely sure what you mean by ‘the others’. Not particularly legible?? I think it’ll take more than you not spending on the club to make you feel better. Pathological misery must be hard to shake. But you can do what you want with your money as can anyone. Spend it on the club or don’t. Your choice. Do you even know what the interest rate have been lately? And yes, if you had money you would have preferred that, sure, but if we could have used that money to buy a player or 2 we might have won the treble in our best ever season. Look at City, they go to win everything not like us. This always ends up in the same argument, you want owners who will just poor money into the club and buy the best 'name' players in the world, irrelevant of the finances of that and how they play as a team. FSG will not do that, they never will, I prefer their model of running as a business and let Klopp manage the players, would City have bought Andy Roberts or brought through a player like TAA?? look at Sancho, he had to leave City to play football. At the end of the day, we will not get an owner who ploughs crazy money into player transfers and wages unless FSG sell Liverpool which is unlikely in the current circumstances, unless FSG get into trouble, as it would be a cut price sale in the market now, even if they sell there are not many Abramovich or Sovereign states around to buy us as a play thing/sports washing. It strikes me you deem success for Liverpool as judged by how much we spend on players every transfer window, rather that how many trophies we win or how good the football is? what in your mind is success for Liverpool? we have played some of the best football I have seen in 30 years in the last few years, we have won the CL and about to win the PL, even when not winning trophies we have been competitive getting to European finals and getting some of the largest PL points tallies and playing great football, what would make you happy? I am genuinely curious.
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This always ends up in the same argument, you want owners who will just poor money into the club and buy the best 'name' players in the world, irrelevant of the finances of that and how they play as a team.
FSG will not do that, they never will, I prefer their model of running as a business and let Klopp manage the players, would City have bought Andy Roberts or brought through a player like TAA?? look at Sancho, he had to leave City to play football.
At the end of the day, we will not get an owner who ploughs crazy money into player transfers and wages unless FSG sell Liverpool which is unlikely in the current circumstances, unless FSG get into trouble, as it would be a cut price sale in the market now, even if they sell there are not many Abramovich or Sovereign states around to buy us as a play thing/sports washing.
It strikes me you deem success for Liverpool as judged by how much we spend on players every transfer window, rather that how many trophies we win or how good the football is? what in your mind is success for Liverpool? we have played some of the best football I have seen in 30 years in the last few years, we have won the CL and about to win the PL, even when not winning trophies we have been competitive getting to European finals and getting some of the largest PL points tallies and playing great football, what would make you happy? I am genuinely curious.
I know FSG will not plough money in as you say but i never expected one of the most profitable clubs in the world having one of the lowest net spend, that says it all. Yes we are ok for now, but have the potential to be much more. Some say I keep asking to spend, spend, spend, but is spending on one attacking player too much to ask? Do you think Origi is good enough to replace any one of our forwards should any one of them get injured? Should we take that kind of risk when the club is generating enough money to buy at least one player? I think they are opportunists, but if you are happy with them, so be it, anyway I cant change anything
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This always ends up in the same argument, you want owners who will just poor money into the club and buy the best 'name' players in the world, irrelevant of the finances of that and how they play as a team.
FSG will not do that, they never will, I prefer their model of running as a business and let Klopp manage the players, would City have bought Andy Roberts or brought through a player like TAA?? look at Sancho, he had to leave City to play football.
At the end of the day, we will not get an owner who ploughs crazy money into player transfers and wages unless FSG sell Liverpool which is unlikely in the current circumstances, unless FSG get into trouble, as it would be a cut price sale in the market now, even if they sell there are not many Abramovich or Sovereign states around to buy us as a play thing/sports washing.
It strikes me you deem success for Liverpool as judged by how much we spend on players every transfer window, rather that how many trophies we win or how good the football is? what in your mind is success for Liverpool? we have played some of the best football I have seen in 30 years in the last few years, we have won the CL and about to win the PL, even when not winning trophies we have been competitive getting to European finals and getting some of the largest PL points tallies and playing great football, what would make you happy? I am genuinely curious.
I know FSG will not plough money in as you say but i never expected one of the most profitable clubs in the world having one of the lowest net spend, that says it all. Yes we are ok for now, but have the potential to be much more. Some say I keep asking to spend, spend, spend, but is spending on one attacking player too much to ask? Do you think Origi is good enough to replace any one of our forwards should any one of them get injured? Should we take that kind of risk when the club is generating enough money to buy at least one player? I think they are opportunists, but if you are happy with them, so be it, anyway I cant change anything I have agreed with you in the past that we need better quality cover for the front 3, I like Origi but he is a drop in quality, I think playing 3 up front we need 4 quality players so you can rotate/cover for injuries etc, so no arguments from me there. Ee will probably sell one of the front 3 in the next few years as they are all ageing together, so we need ready made replacement, as Brewster & Elliott look good, but are not guaranteed to make the grade to lead our line, I'm not sure on Minamino yet but I don't see him as an out & out forward like a Salah or Bobby anyways. I don't think anyone at Liverpool is saying we do not need another quality forward, we have been constantly linked with forwards in the last few years and it seems like Klopp has been in touch with some based on reports, so I think it's a weakness we have identified, the question is can we afford the player, before the pandemic it appears we could, now it appears we cannot. I still expect us to sign someone, but Chelsea have jumped in for Werner, but he still hasn't signed as far as I know, a week ago it was a done deal he was signing for us, so you never know. I am happy with FSG running the club, IMO they have done well, look at where we were when they bought us and where we are now, but I am not blind, I do agree we should be in a better financial situation with our recent success, maybe FSG are being over cautious/prudent, we may come to regret missing Werner, the release clause doesn't seem that extravagant for an experienced 24 year old German International scoring lots of goals in a top league, so it does surprise me, which is why I think there must be something else going on we do not know about? I am still not 100% Werner would fit into our current style of play, as he likes to run onto balls/space rather than getting involved in the build/link up, who ever we sign, if its a top quality forward it won't be much cheaper than the £50 million release clause.
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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong. Better if they didnt loan anything as you dont reimbursement capital projects so fast, did you know the repayments were going to be that fast, never heard? How long do you take to repay mortgages? Other owners are gifting their clubs, these ones cant even give long term loans, but of course you'll see this as normal, not sure why? I will just stop spending on the club as you, I might feel a bit better then Oh dear. Looks like the dummy is right and the genius wrong I don’t know how long the loan or the size of the repayments. The report says it’s now interest free too which you won’t get at a bank. My mortgage was over 25 years but if I had the money I’d pay it in 5 or 10 years. I can’t afford to do won’t but if the club can afford to pay it back quickly then why not? I’m not entirely sure what you mean by ‘the others’. Not particularly legible?? I think it’ll take more than you not spending on the club to make you feel better. Pathological misery must be hard to shake. But you can do what you want with your money as can anyone. Spend it on the club or don’t. Your choice. Do you even know what the interest rate have been lately? And yes, if you had money you would have preferred that, sure, but if we could have used that money to buy a player or 2 we might have won the treble in our best ever season. Look at City, they go to win everything not like us. £30m to buy a player or two?? That would’ve kept you happy I’m sure  So can we just clear up then the fact that you were wrong about FSG taking money from the club? I know you’re skipping that now as you e been done by the dummy but confirmation would be nice. And City use financial cheating to win from owners that are much much richer than ours. Get a grip that’s a rubbish argument.
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This always ends up in the same argument, you want owners who will just poor money into the club and buy the best 'name' players in the world, irrelevant of the finances of that and how they play as a team.
FSG will not do that, they never will, I prefer their model of running as a business and let Klopp manage the players, would City have bought Andy Roberts or brought through a player like TAA?? look at Sancho, he had to leave City to play football.
At the end of the day, we will not get an owner who ploughs crazy money into player transfers and wages unless FSG sell Liverpool which is unlikely in the current circumstances, unless FSG get into trouble, as it would be a cut price sale in the market now, even if they sell there are not many Abramovich or Sovereign states around to buy us as a play thing/sports washing.
It strikes me you deem success for Liverpool as judged by how much we spend on players every transfer window, rather that how many trophies we win or how good the football is? what in your mind is success for Liverpool? we have played some of the best football I have seen in 30 years in the last few years, we have won the CL and about to win the PL, even when not winning trophies we have been competitive getting to European finals and getting some of the largest PL points tallies and playing great football, what would make you happy? I am genuinely curious.
Ain’t that the truth. Just about everything he posts is related to it like a broken miserable record. Proper boring.
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How is it that they didnt take the money from the club? where has the 30m gone to, did it stay in the club? And 30m plus 25m for Origi easily gets you Werner last summer, but a bit too hard for you to understand probably.
Financial cheating? Are they guilty of anything in the EPL, if anything it is in the CL where the limit is much lower, so think before you write. And City has been winning 6 to 7 times what we've won since they were bought over.
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This always ends up in the same argument, you want owners who will just poor money into the club and buy the best 'name' players in the world, irrelevant of the finances of that and how they play as a team.
FSG will not do that, they never will, I prefer their model of running as a business and let Klopp manage the players, would City have bought Andy Roberts or brought through a player like TAA?? look at Sancho, he had to leave City to play football.
At the end of the day, we will not get an owner who ploughs crazy money into player transfers and wages unless FSG sell Liverpool which is unlikely in the current circumstances, unless FSG get into trouble, as it would be a cut price sale in the market now, even if they sell there are not many Abramovich or Sovereign states around to buy us as a play thing/sports washing.
It strikes me you deem success for Liverpool as judged by how much we spend on players every transfer window, rather that how many trophies we win or how good the football is? what in your mind is success for Liverpool? we have played some of the best football I have seen in 30 years in the last few years, we have won the CL and about to win the PL, even when not winning trophies we have been competitive getting to European finals and getting some of the largest PL points tallies and playing great football, what would make you happy? I am genuinely curious.
Ain’t that the truth. Just about everything he posts is related to it like a broken miserable record. Proper boring. Nobody is forcing you to read Jr
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How is it that they didnt take the money from the club? where has the 30m gone to, did it stay in the club? And 30m plus 25m for Origi easily gets you Werner last summer, but a bit too hard for you to understand probably.
Financial cheating? Are they guilty of anything in the EPL, if anything it is in the CL where the limit is much lower, so think before you write. And City has been winning 6 to 7 times what we've won since they were bought over.
Oh dear. Clutching at anything to be right hey? The money paid for a loan that we all knew about for the stand refurb. That’s not taking money from the club at all. Just admit that you made up some old load of dump to try and further your anti FSG agenda. You’re just looking stupid now and let’s not forget I’m the dumb one here. Financial cheating? Yes. Think before you write you say? Maybe take that advice yourself before making up lies and posting them.
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