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Originally Posted By kernowred
Guys feel free to”go in on me”it’s not going to upset me or change my views.its good to have honest discussions about our players it’s what the forum is for right?theres no point in me going over again what I feel about the non existent Salah situation.im just airing my views on him.it doesn’t mean I don’t like or don’t rate him.he’s a good player but not the world beater that he is hailed as.


I'm not trying to go in on anyone, and I apologize if I made that impression.

I don't think Salah is the messiah, and I actually think in some ways Mane and Firmino can be more important to how we play. I just think in the age of twitter football, people tend to see things in absolutes, and those absolutes can be impractical. When we perceive a player is overrated, it can swing the pendulum a bit too far.

There are many people who are either fanboys or haters of big players. Hazard is a good example. There are plenty of "Zard" Chelsea fanboys who think he's been the best player in the league since he came here, who think he's ROnaldo Messi tier. And there are people who react to that and think he's sh*te. He's a really good player, one of the best in the league, but he has certain weaknesses. His finishing is inconsistent, he goes missing at times, and he isn't the most tactically switched on. He's either running the game, or he's a ghost.

Salah certainly has weaknesses. He is a bit one-footed, and he has made a few questionable decisions with the ball at times. But his combination of pace, dribbling, finishing, and creativity have made him the most effective attacker (on results) in the league for two seasons. Even when he plays poorly, he effects matches decisively, and that is a rare quality.

Mane is a bit more two-footed, and he has come up clutch in possibly more moments than Mo this season. But he has his own weaknesses too. He has missed a lot of sitters, and he can be a bit brain-dead every now and then. He can be guilty of making things too complicated when a simple pass or finish will do.

They're both amazing players, and I think it's telling that they both have had the best 2 seasons of their careers since they started playing together. They along with Firmino compliment each other and get the best out of each other.

I just don't see how we could replace Salah with anyone directly. Neymar, Mbappe, Griezman, Messi, Ronaldo; those are the kind of players we would need to replace or improve upon his proven output. Even Sane, Sterling, Son and Kane have Otherwise we have to get lucky and find the next star before they breakout. We replaced Coutinho well, but his output was never at that level, and neither was his consistency.

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Liverpool 'reignite interest in Nabil Fekir' but won't pay the £53m fee agreed with Lyon last summer.

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Can't see us signing anyone but replacements for sturridge and Moreno.

Ox. Keita and Shaq will play a lot more next year.

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Unfortunately we dont know how Klopps mind works.

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We don't need replacements for DS and Moreno, we need signings that can challenge those positions to improve the first team and squad.

I'm sure any talk of 'no big signings' is a smoke screen. We don't want to stand still, but we're in a great position of just needing a couple of quality additions. CB and Striker/front 3 for me.

Many many games next year and we might not be so lucky with injuries.

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Not one of our signings but West ham have just sign Pablo Fornals from Villarreal.

He's a great little player. Loads of skill great shot on him. I'd have been happy with him.

Watch West ham ruin him

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Can't see us signing anyone but replacements for sturridge and Moreno.

Ox. Keita and Shaq will play a lot more next year.


I think the same

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Originally Posted By RedJohn
We don't need replacements for DS and Moreno, we need signings that can challenge those positions to improve the first team and squad.

I'm sure any talk of 'no big signings' is a smoke screen. We don't want to stand still, but we're in a great position of just needing a couple of quality additions. CB and Striker/front 3 for me.

Many many games next year and we might not be so lucky with injuries.


Disagree with this. If Robertson or trent get a lengthy injury we only have milner as senior cover. We definitely need full back options considering how many games we will be playing next year. We were extremely lucky with injuries last season. I think midfield is fine. There are options if one of the front three go down. Same with the CB's with lovren, gomez, VVD and matip (fabinho for emergencies). Full backs? Milner. So yeah, We do we need to replace moreno. Brewster takes Sturridge's place I think.

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Gomez can play fullback, he got injured playing RB and we also have Clyne back who not so long ago was highly regarded so we have options. The more concerning position is a striker.


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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Gomez can play fullback, he got injured playing RB and we also have Clyne back who not so long ago was highly regarded so we have options. The more concerning position is a striker.


Gomez just ok for RB in Klopp's system while Clyne is not coming back. That said, I understand we have a top teenager getting there fast

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