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no i was never looking for some sort of "fact based argument"stats can be bent to suit a discussion." beaten most men"for example.that may not state he was running down a blind alley and got tackled by the 2nd player who he was never going to beat.the fact that as an attacker he has less assists than our 2 full backs is no great argument.and how does a player who has a better shot accuracy and conversion rate get the same amount as goals as the player with less?but this isn't about whether Salah is better than Mane.Mane is a much more rounded player than Salah.i would much rather have 2 Mane's than 2 Salah's but its only my opinion.Salah is very one dimensional and predictable.again only my opinion.he may have a better scoring rate than Suarez did for us,but does that mean he's a better player than Suarez was for us?not in a million years.
All im saying is that at the moment Salah has a value that is much higher than his actual ability.so if a big offer came in i would take it and hope that Klopp could use the money to improve the team.

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50m 100m 150m 5 pound. Does not matter what we sell him for it is who Salah would be replaced with.

Salah is a hugely important part in a well oil machine. You're nearly better talking about what players we could sign if we sold him. He is a top level player as in all the big teams would want him if he is leaving tomorrow. There is a small list of such players.

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Originally Posted By kernowred
no i was never looking for some sort of "fact based argument"stats can be bent to suit a discussion." beaten most men"for example.that may not state he was running down a blind alley and got tackled by the 2nd player who he was never going to beat.the fact that as an attacker he has less assists than our 2 full backs is no great argument.and how does a player who has a better shot accuracy and conversion rate get the same amount as goals as the player with less?but this isn't about whether Salah is better than Mane.Mane is a much more rounded player than Salah.i would much rather have 2 Mane's than 2 Salah's but its only my opinion.Salah is very one dimensional and predictable.again only my opinion.he may have a better scoring rate than Suarez did for us,but does that mean he's a better player than Suarez was for us?not in a million years.
All im saying is that at the moment Salah has a value that is much higher than his actual ability.so if a big offer came in i would take it and hope that Klopp could use the money to improve the team.


Without his goal vs Napoli we would not have moved past the group stage, his goal against Southampton when he ran half of the field also kept our title challenge. That's just 2 contributions off my top of head. 44 goals in debut season, back to back golden boot winner, a huge star and role model in Egypt and the entire Arab world.

Can you tell me who we can buy that can contribute like Salah?


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Originally Posted By paul66
50m 100m 150m 5 pound. Does not matter what we sell him for it is who Salah would be replaced with.

Salah is a hugely important part in a well oil machine. You're nearly better talking about what players we could sign if we sold him. He is a top level player as in all the big teams would want him if he is leaving tomorrow. There is a small list of such players.


Indeed, that's the question, can we get a better player or similar at a lower price. In a perfect market, it will not be possible unless we want to take a risk that could pay off. I did say here that I couldn't see Salah repeating his exceptional last season and also said that I thought he would score around 20 instead of the 32 he scored previously. I think that his level is what he did this season. When I look at Nicolas Pepe, I see more skill and speed, however, it will be a risk as his best season has been this year and no experience in the EPL. Is it worth some 80m profit we would do, ie selling Salah for 150m and buying Pepe for 70m? It could if only we needed strong reinforcements elsewhere, but we don't seem to. So this could happen only if the owners want the club to be even more profitable or Salah wants to go.

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no i was never looking for some sort of "fact based argument"stats can be bent to suit a discussion." beaten most men"for example.that may not state he was running down a blind alley and got tackled by the 2nd player who he was never going to beat.the fact that as an attacker he has less assists than our 2 full backs is no great argument.and how does a player who has a better shot accuracy and conversion rate get the same amount as goals as the player with less?but this isn't about whether Salah is better than Mane.Mane is a much more rounded player than Salah.i would much rather have 2 Mane's than 2 Salah's but its only my opinion.Salah is very one dimensional and predictable.again only my opinion.he may have a better scoring rate than Suarez did for us,but does that mean he's a better player than Suarez was for us?not in a million years.
All im saying is that at the moment Salah has a value that is much higher than his actual ability.so if a big offer came in i would take it and hope that Klopp could use the money to improve the team.


Without his goal vs Napoli we would not have moved past the group stage, his goal against Southampton when he ran half of the field also kept our title challenge. That's just 2 contributions off my top of head. 44 goals in debut season, back to back golden boot winner, a huge star and role model in Egypt and the entire Arab world.

Can you tell me who we can buy that can contribute like Salah?

Origi's goal v barca and his last min goal v everton to keep us in the title race were just as important.but i bet you haven't got the same feelings for him.

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How does being a role model in Egypt and the whole Arab world count as a contribution to the team?i couldnt care less how he is viewed in Egypt it doesnt make him a better player.
im sure in Egypt they think he's the best player ever because he scored the goal that qualified them for the world cup.it still doesnt change the fact that he's one of the most one footed players ive ever seen and cant take a corner to save his life.these are basics for a pro footballer.he is no better than Sane at Man city and he cant get into the city side.infact i would say that Sane is a better player than Salah and if he played on the other side i would be more than happy to sign him as a replacement.

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Originally Posted By kernowred
How does being a role model in Egypt and the whole Arab world count as a contribution to the team?i couldnt care less how he is viewed in Egypt it doesnt make him a better player.
im sure in Egypt they think he's the best player ever because he scored the goal that qualified them for the world cup.it still doesnt change the fact that he's one of the most one footed players ive ever seen and cant take a corner to save his life.these are basics for a pro footballer.he is no better than Sane at Man city and he cant get into the city side.inface i would say that Sane is a better player than Salah and if he played on the other side i would be more than happy to sign him as a replacement.


What makes you think Sane is better than Salah even if we assume that he is available and City would wish to reinforce their biggest rival at their expense?

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Originally Posted By kernowred
How does being a role model in Egypt and the whole Arab world count as a contribution to the team?i couldnt care less how he is viewed in Egypt it doesnt make him a better player.
im sure in Egypt they think he's the best player ever because he scored the goal that qualified them for the world cup.it still doesnt change the fact that he's one of the most one footed players ive ever seen and cant take a corner to save his life.these are basics for a pro footballer.he is no better than Sane at Man city and he cant get into the city side.infact i would say that Sane is a better player than Salah and if he played on the other side i would be more than happy to sign him as a replacement.


It means there is a huge market out there that the club can use eg shirt sales. I remember years ago we wanted an Asian player to target that demographic to generate more funds for the club. As for Sane being better well that's your opinion.


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Originally Posted By kernowred
How does being a role model in Egypt and the whole Arab world count as a contribution to the team?i couldnt care less how he is viewed in Egypt it doesnt make him a better player.
im sure in Egypt they think he's the best player ever because he scored the goal that qualified them for the world cup.it still doesnt change the fact that he's one of the most one footed players ive ever seen and cant take a corner to save his life.these are basics for a pro footballer.he is no better than Sane at Man city and he cant get into the city side.infact i would say that Sane is a better player than Salah and if he played on the other side i would be more than happy to sign him as a replacement.


Not sure Sane would be as productive as Salah. But we could never buy him off city. So it is an irreverent argument to have.

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Originally Posted By kernowred
How does being a role model in Egypt and the whole Arab world count as a contribution to the team?i couldnt care less how he is viewed in Egypt it doesnt make him a better player.
im sure in Egypt they think he's the best player ever because he scored the goal that qualified them for the world cup.it still doesnt change the fact that he's one of the most one footed players ive ever seen and cant take a corner to save his life.these are basics for a pro footballer.he is no better than Sane at Man city and he cant get into the city side.infact i would say that Sane is a better player than Salah and if he played on the other side i would be more than happy to sign him as a replacement.


It means there is a huge market out there that the club can use eg shirt sales. I remember years ago we wanted an Asian player to target that demographic to generate more funds for the club. As for Sane being better well that's your opinion.


Agree except for one thing, don't think there is a huge market for genuine shirts in Egypt though.

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