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Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617499 02/02/19 12:54 PM
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ecnirp98 1st Team Squad E Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 6,054 Madchester	Originally Posted By Pickles What was compelling in that piece from The Mail was what Klopp said about Clyne: "We all know how good Clyney is, but would he have had more offensive influence in the game? I don't know." So basically he's said Clyne is not offensive enough, so Jurgen has been with us for 3 1/2 years and now decides Clyne has been a wrong fit for his style of play all along! Probably shows Klopp would not have signed Clyne as he didn't really fit into his system, Klopp never signed him, Clyne has also been out injured for long periods of time under Klopp, so not like he could really sell him. I just think as defensive cover with all the injuries we have and will have (we know how susceptible our defenders are to injuries) we should have kept Clyne until the end of the season with our run in, he could have played on Wednesday which release Hendo for MF. Same with Fab, everyone is saying he can play RB, but he's probably our best MF at the moment, so we lose something if plays at RB.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617500 02/02/19 01:03 PM
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OP Pickles 1st Team Squad Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,936	Clyne had one spurious back injury in the time Klopp has been at the club - July 2017 to March 2018. Klopp had ample time before to know if Clyne was a player he wanted to keep. He almost certainly had a huge opportunity to sell him last summer and get somebody who was compatible.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617502 02/02/19 01:44 PM
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Oli Under 16 Player O Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 458 Iceland	What is the real problem between you Pickles and Klopp? Never seen anyone try so much to find fault with Klopp.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617503 02/02/19 02:51 PM
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Hercules/AF 58 1st Team Squad H Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,595	It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club. Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in. Last edited by Hercules/AF 58; 02/02/19 02:52 PM.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617506 02/02/19 03:28 PM
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wilkij1975 Liverpool Legend Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 22,394 Northamptonshire	Originally Posted By Pickles Originally Posted By wilkij1975 We didn’t buy players in January when Buvac was here. An assistant will have very little say in anything like that. VVD must have been a figment of my imagination then, January 2018. And we did buy Grujic in 15/16 winter transfer window to loan him straight back to Red Star Belgrade. Buvac actually flew to Belgrade to get that deal over the line! And the infamous Steven Caulker loan from QPR happened in the 15/16 winter transfer window. Now more than any other time in Klopp's tenure has there ever been a need for reinforcements, our squad has been wittled down to a fraction of what it was and with this Title Challenge we are in. [/quote] Haha. Forgot about VVD. Well apart from him we don’t buy in January. Grujic hasn’t played for us so don’t count really.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Oli #617507 02/02/19 03:30 PM
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wilkij1975 Liverpool Legend Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 22,394 Northamptonshire	Originally Posted By Oli What is the real problem between you Pickles and Klopp? Never seen anyone try so much to find fault with Klopp. Have you not read any of Flames posts?

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Hercules/AF 58 #617508 02/02/19 03:35 PM
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wilkij1975 Liverpool Legend Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 22,394 Northamptonshire	Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58 It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club. Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in. How do you know he’s ‘stubbornly refused’ to buy? How do you know he hasn’t tried? To get a defender as good as we need in January would be pretty difficult. I know, I know. We got VVD but that was clearly a hang over from the summer. Klopp is no fool. He’ll know exactly what we need and when we need it. But this being real life and not FIFA, it’s not always as simple as buying a player to improve us in January. And if Klopp can’t see it then maybe we should bin him now as we’ll never win anything with someone so inept in charge.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! wilkij1975 #617512 02/02/19 03:52 PM
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Oli Under 16 Player O Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 458 Iceland	Yes many i guess. Just wanted it straight out.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! wilkij1975 #617524 02/02/19 08:05 PM
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EnergisedReds Liverpool Legend Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 22,926	Originally Posted By wilkij1975 Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58 It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club. Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in. How do you know he’s ‘stubbornly refused’ to buy? How do you know he hasn’t tried? To get a defender as good as we need in January would be pretty difficult. I know, I know. We got VVD but that was clearly a hang over from the summer. Klopp is no fool. He’ll know exactly what we need and when we need it. But this being real life and not FIFA, it’s not always as simple as buying a player to improve us in January. And if Klopp can’t see it then maybe we should bin him now as we’ll never win anything with someone so inept in charge. Klopp can make mistakes too, for example, I think Aubameyang would have been much more valuable to us than Keita.

Re: Gomez to see Specialist to see if he requires more surgery! Pickles #617526 02/02/19 08:26 PM
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wilkij1975 Liverpool Legend Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 22,394 Northamptonshire	Of course he can make mistakes. He’s only human. But he’s not stupid and will know what we need. He does see the team every day let’s not forget so knows a shitte load more about it than anyone else. But if people think he can’t see it and hence refused to look in the market or just didn’t bother, he’s not the man for the job and surely he must go?

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