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Surgery fear for Joe Gomez as Liverpool defender continues to struggle with injury

Jurgen Klopp has revealed Joe Gomez will not be fit for several more weeks
There are fears that Gomez may have to undergo surgery to rectify the issue

By DOMINIC KING FOR THE DAILY MAIL

1 February 2019

Joe Gomez will see a specialist to determine whether he requires surgery to rectify the injury that has left him a spectator in Liverpool's title challenge.

The England defender was one of Liverpool's standout performers in the first half of the campaign but he broke his right leg in a 3-1 win at Burnley on December 5 and his recovery has taken longer than envisaged.

Gomez started running again early last month but Jurgen Klopp revealed on Friday that the 21-year-old will not be ready for the first leg of Liverpool's Champions League clash with Bayern Munich on February 19 and would not categorically rule out the prospect of an operation.


The defender sustained a fractured leg in the game at Burnley on December 5

'It is not exactly going how we want, that's how it is,' said Klopp. 'He needs more time. We will see exactly how we do it. There were different moments we thought we could do this or that. It will take time. We cannot say more.'

Pressed on whether surgery was an option, Klopp replied: 'I don't know. We will see. It is possible, probably.'

Klopp has been dealing with a number of different injury issues that have impacted on his defence. Trent Alexander-Arnold is still two weeks away from being ready for selection, despite making positive steps, while Dejan Lovren has had a recurrence of a hamstring issue.

Virgil van Dijk has recovered from the illness that blighted his preparation for the draw with Leicester City but he will be suspended for the first leg clash with Bayern, having picked up two bookings in the Champions League group stage.

Asked whether he regretted letting right-back Nathaniel Clyne leave on loan for Bournemouth, Klopp said: 'You make the decision in the moment you have to and then people judge it later. Hendo (Jordan Henderson) did well.

'We all know how good Clyney is, but would he have had more offensive influence in the game? I don't know. Defensively I did not see a mistake from Hendo.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba...gle-injury.html
Will we even see Gomez play again this season?

I think Klopp has known for sometime Gomez was going to be a long, long time coming back and has played down his rehabilitation. Now the transfer window is closed we are starting to find out the true extent of injuries!

I will not forgive Klopp if we ultimately fail to win our 1st Prem League Title from the position we are in now because of his pig headedness. It's stupid sh*te like this where an experienced, successful Assistant Coach steps in and says we need reinforcements...Buvac I'm sure would have ripped him, but now we have Gobbledygook Pippy instead!
He is out of the season, I don't see him coming back now. Its absurd that we didn't delve in the transfer market to get cover for our weak areas.
Originally Posted By Pickles
Will we even see Gomez play again this season?

I think Klopp has known for sometime Gomez was going to be a long, long time coming back and has played down his rehabilitation. Now the transfer window is closed we are starting to find out the true extent of injuries!

I will not forgive Klopp if we ultimately fail to win our 1st Prem League Title from the position we are in now because of his pig headedness. It's stupid sh*te like this where an experienced, successful Assistant Coach steps in and says we need reinforcements...Buvac I'm sure would have ripped him, but now we have Gobbledygook Pippy instead!



We didn�t buy players in January when Buvac was here. An assistant will have very little say in anything like that.
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
[/quote]We didn�t buy players in January when Buvac was here. An assistant will have very little say in anything like that.


VVD must have been a figment of my imagination then, January 2018.

And we did buy Grujic in 15/16 winter transfer window to loan him straight back to Red Star Belgrade. Buvac actually flew to Belgrade to get that deal over the line!

And the infamous Steven Caulker loan from QPR happened in the 15/16 winter transfer window.

Now more than any other time in Klopp's tenure has there ever been a need for reinforcements, our squad has been wittled down to a fraction of what it was and with this Title Challenge we are in.

City will be enjoying this.
Should have taken Wesley Hoedt from Southampton.

We have a decent relationship with them and he's gone on loan to celta Vigo. He's Dutch and probably wouldve known VVD from international games.

Anyone but Lovren and Matip
What was compelling in that piece from The Mail was what Klopp said about Clyne:

"We all know how good Clyney is, but would he have had more offensive influence in the game? I don't know."

So basically he's said Clyne is not offensive enough, so Jurgen has been with us for 3 1/2 years and now decides Clyne has been a wrong fit for his style of play all along!
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Should have taken Wesley Hoedt from Southampton.

We have a decent relationship with them and he's gone on loan to celta Vigo. He's Dutch and probably wouldve known VVD from international games.

Anyone but Lovren and Matip


Dunno about the decent relationship after the VvD fiasco !!!!

The worrying thing about Gomez, TAA, Lovren & Matip is we know they are all very vulnerable to injuries and are regularly out, I don't know what it is, never seen so many defenders so vulnerable like that, maybe our training? these are supposed to be rugged defenders, especially CB's
I'm incensed at Klopp's derelict of duty regarding Clyne. He's allowed a senior player that's not fit for his style of play to warm the bench and pick up a wage for all this time. He could have easily been sold and a player who does fit Klopp's style of play purchased instead. It's not as if Klopp has just arrived at the club and is still deciding who to sell and who to keep.
Originally Posted By Pickles
What was compelling in that piece from The Mail was what Klopp said about Clyne:

"We all know how good Clyney is, but would he have had more offensive influence in the game? I don't know."

So basically he's said Clyne is not offensive enough, so Jurgen has been with us for 3 1/2 years and now decides Clyne has been a wrong fit for his style of play all along!



Probably shows Klopp would not have signed Clyne as he didn't really fit into his system, Klopp never signed him, Clyne has also been out injured for long periods of time under Klopp, so not like he could really sell him.

I just think as defensive cover with all the injuries we have and will have (we know how susceptible our defenders are to injuries) we should have kept Clyne until the end of the season with our run in, he could have played on Wednesday which release Hendo for MF. Same with Fab, everyone is saying he can play RB, but he's probably our best MF at the moment, so we lose something if plays at RB.
Clyne had one spurious back injury in the time Klopp has been at the club - July 2017 to March 2018. Klopp had ample time before to know if Clyne was a player he wanted to keep. He almost certainly had a huge opportunity to sell him last summer and get somebody who was compatible.
What is the real problem between you Pickles and Klopp? Never seen anyone try so much to find fault with Klopp.
It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club.
Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in.
Originally Posted By Pickles
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
We didn�t buy players in January when Buvac was here. An assistant will have very little say in anything like that.


VVD must have been a figment of my imagination then, January 2018.

And we did buy Grujic in 15/16 winter transfer window to loan him straight back to Red Star Belgrade. Buvac actually flew to Belgrade to get that deal over the line!

And the infamous Steven Caulker loan from QPR happened in the 15/16 winter transfer window.

Now more than any other time in Klopp's tenure has there ever been a need for reinforcements, our squad has been wittled down to a fraction of what it was and with this Title Challenge we are in.

[/quote]

Haha. Forgot about VVD. Well apart from him we don�t buy in January. Grujic hasn�t played for us so don�t count really.
Originally Posted By Oli
What is the real problem between you Pickles and Klopp? Never seen anyone try so much to find fault with Klopp.


Have you not read any of Flames posts?
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club.
Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in.


How do you know he�s �stubbornly refused� to buy? How do you know he hasn�t tried? To get a defender as good as we need in January would be pretty difficult. I know, I know. We got VVD but that was clearly a hang over from the summer.

Klopp is no fool. He�ll know exactly what we need and when we need it. But this being real life and not FIFA, it�s not always as simple as buying a player to improve us in January.

And if Klopp can�t see it then maybe we should bin him now as we�ll never win anything with someone so inept in charge.
Yes many i guess. Just wanted it straight out.
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
It seems to me Pickles has a point there though Oli. Klopp has had more than enough time to sell Clyne if he regarded him as unsuited to his system. We all knew that Clyne wasn't great going forward or at crossing the ball, and we've known it since shortly after he arrived in the club.
Klopp is guilty of poor management on this one IMO and also by stubbornly refusing to seek defensive reinforcement. We are in the midst of a title challenge and also in the knockout stages of the CL, while being forced to use stand in defenders! And all this when we're about to post a world record profit margin. It's Fuckking redicilous that we haven't tried to strengthen our defence's the January window, given the situation we're in.


How do you know he�s �stubbornly refused� to buy? How do you know he hasn�t tried? To get a defender as good as we need in January would be pretty difficult. I know, I know. We got VVD but that was clearly a hang over from the summer.

Klopp is no fool. He�ll know exactly what we need and when we need it. But this being real life and not FIFA, it�s not always as simple as buying a player to improve us in January.

And if Klopp can�t see it then maybe we should bin him now as we�ll never win anything with someone so inept in charge.


Klopp can make mistakes too, for example, I think Aubameyang would have been much more valuable to us than Keita.
Of course he can make mistakes. He�s only human. But he�s not stupid and will know what we need. He does see the team every day let�s not forget so knows a shitte load more about it than anyone else.

But if people think he can�t see it and hence refused to look in the market or just didn�t bother, he�s not the man for the job and surely he must go?
I wonder how close we might be to breaking FFP ourselves or running the risk of not being able to implement plans in the summer if we splashed out in January. Given the seriousness of the defence situation surely a stopgap on loan should have been deployed.

I can understand having a plan but leaving us this short seems crazy. I can only think that we have a couple of youngsters who are ready to be thrown in if absolutely necessary.

Against Leicester Henderson did ok but Matip was booked taking one for the team when Henderson forgot he wasn't a midfielder and got caught too high up the pitch.
It's not only a win v West Ham but a clean sheet to put the doubts aside.
Originally Posted By SSO
I wonder how close we might be to breaking FFP ourselves or running the risk of not being able to implement plans in the summer if we splashed out in January. Given the seriousness of the defence situation surely a stopgap on loan should have been deployed.

I can understand having a plan but leaving us this short seems crazy. I can only think that we have a couple of youngsters who are ready to be thrown in if absolutely necessary.

Against Leicester Henderson did ok but Matip was booked taking one for the team when Henderson forgot he wasn't a midfielder and got caught too high up the pitch.
It's not only a win v West Ham but a clean sheet to put the doubts aside.


Don't think we are anywhere near breaking FFP rules with the record profit we did in the last Financial year.
Maybe Klopp should also be having a long hard look at his medical setup. How is it that so long after Gomez injured his leg that they're only now thinking of X-rays and a possible operation? That sounds like a pretty sloppy medical setup to me.
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Maybe Klopp should also be having a long hard look at his medical setup. How is it that so long after Gomez injured his leg that they're only now thinking of X-rays and a possible operation? That sounds like a pretty sloppy medical setup to me.


Do you really think they did the x-ray after a few weeks, in what world are you living? They would do xrays continuously to monitor
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Maybe Klopp should also be having a long hard look at his medical setup. How is it that so long after Gomez injured his leg that they're only now thinking of X-rays and a possible operation? That sounds like a pretty sloppy medical setup to me.


Do you really think they did the x-ray after a few weeks, in what world are you living? They would do xrays continuously to monitor

Not very efficacious those X-rays then if they're only now thinking about operation? Sounds like a Laurel and Hardy operation to me.
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Maybe Klopp should also be having a long hard look at his medical setup. How is it that so long after Gomez injured his leg that they're only now thinking of X-rays and a possible operation? That sounds like a pretty sloppy medical setup to me.


Do you really think they did the x-ray after a few weeks, in what world are you living? They would do xrays continuously to monitor

Not very efficacious those X-rays then if they're only now thinking about operation? Sounds like a Laurel and Hardy operation to me.


No, they look how things are progressing/healing first before deciding on an operation which is usually the last resort.
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Maybe Klopp should also be having a long hard look at his medical setup. How is it that so long after Gomez injured his leg that they're only now thinking of X-rays and a possible operation? That sounds like a pretty sloppy medical setup to me.


Do you really think they did the x-ray after a few weeks, in what world are you living? They would do xrays continuously to monitor

Not very efficacious those X-rays then if they're only now thinking about operation? Sounds like a Laurel and Hardy operation to me.


No, they look how things are progressing/healing first before deciding on an operation which is usually the last resort.


Yeah, sometimes the bone does not nit and heal as well as expected, this is not as predictable, they will continuously monitor and take the long term view on the best way to heal.
What they said. To suggest we only just x-rated him is pretty stupid.
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
What they said. To suggest we only just x-rated him is pretty stupid.


Yeah, sounds like they put out an odd message based on what people are saying (not read it myself).
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