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Now wait and see what holgate gets

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Pickles
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!


This is the problem with the modern world. Then the accused has to defend themselves and prove that they didn't do anything whilst having a black mark against them and their character.


It's better than it was when Back men couldn't play or use the same bathroom or ride the same coach.

And there's no black mark against firmino. He's been cleared. No harm done.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Pickles
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!


This is the problem with the modern world. Then the accused has to defend themselves and prove that they didn't do anything whilst having a black mark against them and their character.


It's better than it was when Back men couldn't play or use the same bathroom or ride the same coach.

And there's no black mark against firmino. He's been cleared. No harm done.


No harm done this time with the benefit of tv replays and a panel reviewing them. But it’s not so simple in real life when people are wrongly accused of anything. The press are always quick to jump on the accused regardless of any guilt and if found innocent there’s nothing to be heard of it. It needs to change and if someone is falsely accused then those who accused them need to be shamed.

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Yeah, as it is now it's almost like in the old days when they just hung people up in ropes from a tree without any trial.

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Another scenario here...what if Bobby had previous for being a bad lad like Suarez had?

All the circumstances in this accusation were the same as in ONLY Evra heard Suarez call him something, even with players and officials all around close by and the tv cameras rolling from all angles.

I think The FA wanted to find reason to punish Suarez because of his previous history hence why they went a long, long way in making sure they convicted Suarez, using a 3 man partizan panel and linguistic experts from the University of the City the accuser played in.

Makes you wonder why none of this methodology was used in this case with the accusation and circumstances almost mirroring each other?

Although I still don't get why The FA should be Judge & Jury on something that they have no jurisdiction with...a potential criminal act...RACISM...isn't this is what The Police are paid for?

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I think you're right. Suarez's previous would've come into it for sure.

Did the FA sanction John Terry while he was being investigated by the police after clearly using racially abusive language?

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Another scenario here...what if Bobby had previous for being a bad lad like Suarez had?

All the circumstances in this accusation were the same as in ONLY Evra heard Suarez call him something, even with players and officials all around close by and the tv cameras rolling from all angles.

I think The FA wanted to find reason to punish Suarez because of his previous history hence why they went a long, long way in making sure they convicted Suarez, using a 3 man partizan panel and linguistic experts from the University of the City the accuser played in.

Makes you wonder why none of this methodology was used in this case with the accusation and circumstances almost mirroring each other?

Although I still don't get why The FA should be Judge & Jury on something that they have no jurisdiction with...a potential criminal act...RACISM...isn't this is what The Police are paid for?



What makes you say that? As you said, the FA are not a police, this is why they can only prevent somebody from playing, it's like a club, they can prevent you from coming to the club.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
[/quote]What makes you say that? As you said, the FA are not a police, this is why they can only prevent somebody from playing, it's like a club, they can prevent you from coming to the club.


The Panel consisted of at least 2 of the 3 who had a working/friendly relationship with Evra's side/club...Dennis Smith ex-Wrexham Manager who made Fergie's son his Captain and also loaned a lot of Man Utd players and gave Fergie a tip on a Goalkeeper that Man Utd bought. There was also the QC who defended Rooney and got his International ban reduced after Rooney scythed an opponent down. The linguistic experts coming from Manchester University also smacks of a partizan alliance.

There was NO partizan relationship in any of the proceedings for Suarez.

And The FA should pass everything that is not in their jurisdiction on to The Police to investigate on such a serious allegation which is a potential criminal act. Then once The Police conclude their investigation ONLY then should The FA choose to intervene on the basis of The Police findings.
The Police employ Professional experts and have far more resources and have the right by law, something The FA never have had!

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Originally Posted By TiredReds
What makes you say that? As you said, the FA are not a police, this is why they can only prevent somebody from playing, it's like a club, they can prevent you from coming to the club.


The Panel consisted of at least 2 of the 3 who had a working/friendly relationship with Evra's side/club...Dennis Smith ex-Wrexham Manager who made Fergie's son his Captain and also loaned a lot of Man Utd players and gave Fergie a tip on a Goalkeeper that Man Utd bought. There was also the QC who defended Rooney and got his International ban reduced after Rooney scythed an opponent down. The linguistic experts coming from Manchester University also smacks of a partizan alliance.

There was NO partizan relationship in any of the proceedings for Suarez.

And The FA should pass everything that is not in their jurisdiction on to The Police to investigate on such a serious allegation which is a potential criminal act. Then once The Police conclude their investigation ONLY then should The FA choose to intervene on the basis of The Police findings.
The Police employ Professional experts and have far more resources and have the right by law, something The FA never have had!


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You know what? I don't believe in conspiracy theories

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I laughed so hard when I read he made the inquiry with good faith. You just knew FA were going to pull this under the rug and expect everyone to forget. A joke of a federation. Holgate should be banned for 3 games minimum for his red card offence.


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