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Yeah,glad that's all been cleared up.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Still hate that arrogant tw@t holgate though. mad

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If holgate had heard something which he felt was a racist remark. Then I feel for him because he will feel hard done by and no one should have to endure that.

If he made it up then f##k him. We will never know 100% but he seemed to be the only person who heard it. Which makes me think he misheard.

Everyone fans won't like it but I'm glad it's over.

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The ref was right there along with Calvert Lewin and Niasse, and his other teammates, white and black.

If he thought he heard something and was merely mistaken, fair play. Let's move on. I'm just glad it won't be a black mark on Firmino's character (my favorite player), and it sounded so out of character for him, unlike say Suarez who has something of a bad boy history.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
The injustice there was holgate wasn’t sent off bobby could of got hurt bad !


That what it was all about...Holgate distracting the referee in the most despicable way possible by lying that he heard Firmino say a racial remark to him!

The questions that needed to be asked was:

1) What exactly did Holgate think Firmino said to him?
2) How does Holgate know the Portugese language?
3) Why didn't anybody else who were a lot closer to the referee and Firmino hear what was said?

The FA have decided to take no action on Firmino because it was BS from Holgate...what should happen now is for The FA to go back and look at what Holgate done and retrospectively ban him!

No matter the outcome of this, Firmino will have a question mark over him because that's what happens in this day and age of PC.
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!

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To be fair, nothing usually happens to the accused unless there is overwhelming proof. Balotelli, Pogba, Dani Alves, Hulk, and plenty of others have all been racially abused in recent years without any action taken to protect them or punish the perpetrators.

Holgate should have been sent off for the push though. No question.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Originally Posted By sixtiesred
The injustice there was holgate wasn’t sent off bobby could of got hurt bad !


That what it was all about...Holgate distracting the referee in the most despicable way possible by lying that he heard Firmino say a racial remark to him!

The questions that needed to be asked was:

1) What exactly did Holgate think Firmino said to him?
2) How does Holgate know the Portugese language?
3) Why didn't anybody else who were a lot closer to the referee and Firmino hear what was said?

The FA have decided to take no action on Firmino because it was BS from Holgate...what should happen now is for The FA to go back and look at what Holgate done and retrospectively ban him!

No matter the outcome of this, Firmino will have a question mark over him because that's what happens in this day and age of PC.
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!




Holgate can only be banned if he made up the whole thing which cannot be proved, he will surely say what he thought he heard. I don't think there will be any question mark on Firmino.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!


This is the problem with the modern world. Then the accused has to defend themselves and prove that they didn't do anything whilst having a black mark against them and their character.

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Pickles
You can accuse to your hearts content knowing nothing will happen to the accuser!


This is the problem with the modern world. Then the accused has to defend themselves and prove that they didn't do anything whilst having a black mark against them and their character.


I'm sure I read somewhere that the FA believed that the allegation was made in good faith.

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