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Who told you nobody wants to win the cup, City is in the final and they all played their best teams, including LFC in the last game.
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I wouldnt go so far as wanting him sacked but I do believe the owners should kick his arsse for faling to get a decent goal keeper. Neither of the two current ones are to be relied on and anyone with a hole in their back can see that.
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I wouldnt go so far as wanting him sacked but I do believe the owners should kick his arsse for faling to get a decent goal keeper. Neither of the two current ones are to be relied on and anyone with a hole in their back can see that. Do you think the owners will kick his arse for that, he'll just ask them 60m...case will be closed
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yes ofcorse it's all about money and yes it's not our money so why should we care....makes it all the more baffling why people want to finish in the top four as the only benefit is for John Henry and FSG and nothing from our pony of view becare we will never win it and only make up numbers....why fans want to finish in the top four instead of the glory of a cup win at Wembley is astonishing....the league and Champions League are only about money for the Club and partners and are dead competitions from a fan point of view like the title of another thread.. I'll put it simply, if a club wants to improve and be able to compete at the top they must be in the Champions League every season, you can probably get away with missing the odd season here and there. (The clubs that you brand the 'big clubs' always do this) And I didn't realise you could only get into the top 4 or win a cup, isn't it possible to do both? I know you like to make things up but come on.
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I wouldnt go so far as wanting him sacked but I do believe the owners should kick his arsse for faling to get a decent goal keeper. Neither of the two current ones are to be relied on and anyone with a hole in their back can see that. No offence but you're pretty naive if you think our keeper situation is down to Klopp. Sure, Klopp stands by his players but I'd like to think there's a brain behind his shinny new teeth that would jump as buying a new keeper if F$G released the cash.
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now hang on just a minute....your telling the wrong person you have to choose a cup or a to four place....I have always maintained you can do both as my stance on resting players will tell you...if you want to direct and point the finger at anyone.. you point the finger at Klopp he's the one who says you can't do both by his team selections in the cups since he's been there and the attitude he has and the one he sends his players out with as West Brom match showed.
While we are also on the subject maybe you want to point the finger at the posters who put up weak teams when there is a thread about what should the team be when we play a domestic cup match and they Mane reserves and kids in it, this clearly shows how important they treat the cups...
Klopp picked a strong enough team to beat WBA, you cannot blame him for absolutely everything although his persistence with Mignolet and Moreno is beyond ridiculous now. He didn't send the players out with a poor attitude, what manager would do that? Any team can lose to anyone on a given day. We got beat, deservedly so, but blame the players for their attitude if you think that's the problem. They are professional sportsmen, they have to take responsibility as well. Or should the manager play the game in 11 positions as well?
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now hang on just a minute....your telling the wrong person you have to choose a cup or a to four place....I have always maintained you can do both as my stance on resting players will tell you...if you want to direct and point the finger at anyone.. you point the finger at Klopp he's the one who says you can't do both by his team selections in the cups since he's been there and the attitude he has and the one he sends his players out with as West Brom match showed.
While we are also on the subject maybe you want to point the finger at the posters who put up weak teams when there is a thread about what should the team be when we play a domestic cup match and they Mane reserves and kids in it, this clearly shows how important they treat the cups...
you cannot blame him for absolutely everything although his persistence with Mignolet and Moreno is beyond ridiculous now. He didn't send the players out with a poor attitude, what manager would do that? Any team can lose to anyone on a given day. We got beat, deservedly so, but blame the players for their attitude if you think that's the problem. They are professional sportsmen, they have to take responsibility as well. Or should the manager play the game in 11 positions as well? Arnold, Mingolet, Henderson, Moreno hadn't played a game since last year (ok, Arnold played 1 game) But not exactly a purring engine of a side was it?
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Hmmm.... having a manager on half the pay and yet POSSIBLY achieve the same results? Then when those results don’t come in, oh... it’s ok cos he’s paid less? Let’s pay him more to motivate him or sack and get another manager.
Things like moulding the team to the Manager’s tactics/vision and the Manager’s reputation to attract better players doesn’t count? How many windows and budgets we can have to keep moulding a different team?
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now hang on just a minute....your telling the wrong person you have to choose a cup or a to four place....I have always maintained you can do both as my stance on resting players will tell you...if you want to direct and point the finger at anyone.. you point the finger at Klopp he's the one who says you can't do both by his team selections in the cups since he's been there and the attitude he has and the one he sends his players out with as West Brom match showed.
While we are also on the subject maybe you want to point the finger at the posters who put up weak teams when there is a thread about what should the team be when we play a domestic cup match and they Mane reserves and kids in it, this clearly shows how important they treat the cups...
Klopp picked a strong enough team to beat WBA, you cannot blame him for absolutely everything although his persistence with Mignolet and Moreno is beyond ridiculous now. He didn't send the players out with a poor attitude, what manager would do that? Any team can lose to anyone on a given day. We got beat, deservedly so, but blame the players for their attitude if you think that's the problem. They are professional sportsmen, they have to take responsibility as well. Or should the manager play the game in 11 positions as well? It could be that the manager got the tactics wrong though, especially defensively which won't be knew. We really look very disorganised defending particularly under pressure, not only in that game, that has something to do with the way we are positioned and trained/coached.
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now hang on just a minute....your telling the wrong person you have to choose a cup or a to four place....I have always maintained you can do both as my stance on resting players will tell you...if you want to direct and point the finger at anyone.. you point the finger at Klopp he's the one who says you can't do both by his team selections in the cups since he's been there and the attitude he has and the one he sends his players out with as West Brom match showed.
While we are also on the subject maybe you want to point the finger at the posters who put up weak teams when there is a thread about what should the team be when we play a domestic cup match and they Mane reserves and kids in it, this clearly shows how important they treat the cups...
Klopp picked a strong enough team to beat WBA, you cannot blame him for absolutely everything although his persistence with Mignolet and Moreno is beyond ridiculous now. He didn't send the players out with a poor attitude, what manager would do that? Any team can lose to anyone on a given day. We got beat, deservedly so, but blame the players for their attitude if you think that's the problem. They are professional sportsmen, they have to take responsibility as well. Or should the manager play the game in 11 positions as well? It could be that the manager got the tactics wrong though, especially defensively which won't be knew. We really look very disorganised defending particularly under pressure, not only in that game, that has something to do with the way we are positioned and trained/coached. New
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