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I noticed it Herc and thought it was an exceedingly good quote.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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agreed its a different era but every club/squad are different.
change of manager is not going to do fookin miracles or fix things UNLESS Klopp is doing all this deliberately which is really ridiculous to imagine even.

you wanna sack Klopp go ahead but make sure hes not the only one departing and it should include the owners.


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Originally Posted By lumba
I noticed it Herc and thought it was an exceedingly good quote.
Yeah I thought you would lumba. Kipling as a person doesn't sit too easy with me, but he was an exceedingly good poet. He seems to have been a complicated and perhaps conflicted personality as many of his poems contradict his reputation as a xenophobic imperialist, while some statements and actions do.

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His bakewell tarts weren't bad either.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Dejan Lovren dropped: Jurgen Klopp to put faith in Liverpool youngsters
JURGEN KLOPP is ready to ring the changes and give youth a chance as he looks to solve Liverpool's defensive problems.

The German has been criticised for the way his side have defended so far this campaign.

The Reds have already shipped 16 league goals in nine games and saw their back four torn apart by a rampant Spurs outfit last weekend.

Things were made worse for Klopp, as under-fire centre-back Dejan Lovren was at fault for two of the goals at Wembley.

And according to The Daily Mirror, the Liverpool chief is planning to make wholesale changes at the back in order to fix his side's defensive frailties.

And it is reported the Croatian will be dropped in a move which will see Joe Gomez move from right-back to centre-back.

This will allow youngster Trent Alexander-Arnold the chance to prove his worth at full-back before Nathaniel Clyne returns from injury.

It is appears Klopp still isn't ready to thrust 31-year-old Ragnar Klavan back into the first-team after his poor performances in previous games.

And the former Borussia Dortmund chief is ready to bring Loris Karius back into the first-team fold after Simon Mignolet's poor showings of late.

Karius has failed to hold down the number one spot at Liverpool since arriving for £7m last summer.

Liverpool currently sit ninth in the table, 12 points off league leaders Manchester City.

Klopp's men entertain Huddersfield this weekend, who will be buoyed after a shock win against Manchester United on Saturday.

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Originally Posted By Vicdamone
Dejan Lovren dropped: Jurgen Klopp to put faith in Liverpool youngsters
JURGEN KLOPP is ready to ring the changes and give youth a chance as he looks to solve Liverpool's defensive problems.

The German has been criticised for the way his side have defended so far this campaign.

The Reds have already shipped 16 league goals in nine games and saw their back four torn apart by a rampant Spurs outfit last weekend.

Things were made worse for Klopp, as under-fire centre-back Dejan Lovren was at fault for two of the goals at Wembley.

And according to The Daily Mirror, the Liverpool chief is planning to make wholesale changes at the back in order to fix his side's defensive frailties.

And it is reported the Croatian will be dropped in a move which will see Joe Gomez move from right-back to centre-back.

This will allow youngster Trent Alexander-Arnold the chance to prove his worth at full-back before Nathaniel Clyne returns from injury.

It is appears Klopp still isn't ready to thrust 31-year-old Ragnar Klavan back into the first-team after his poor performances in previous games.

And the former Borussia Dortmund chief is ready to bring Loris Karius back into the first-team fold after Simon Mignolet's poor showings of late.

Karius has failed to hold down the number one spot at Liverpool since arriving for £7m last summer.

Liverpool currently sit ninth in the table, 12 points off league leaders Manchester City.

Klopp's men entertain Huddersfield this weekend, who will be buoyed after a shock win against Manchester United on Saturday.


I would like to be proven wrong but Gomez, TAA and Karius starting won't be better.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Vicdamone
Dejan Lovren dropped: Jurgen Klopp to put faith in Liverpool youngsters
JURGEN KLOPP is ready to ring the changes and give youth a chance as he looks to solve Liverpool's defensive problems.

The German has been criticised for the way his side have defended so far this campaign.

The Reds have already shipped 16 league goals in nine games and saw their back four torn apart by a rampant Spurs outfit last weekend.

Things were made worse for Klopp, as under-fire centre-back Dejan Lovren was at fault for two of the goals at Wembley.

And according to The Daily Mirror, the Liverpool chief is planning to make wholesale changes at the back in order to fix his side's defensive frailties.

And it is reported the Croatian will be dropped in a move which will see Joe Gomez move from right-back to centre-back.

This will allow youngster Trent Alexander-Arnold the chance to prove his worth at full-back before Nathaniel Clyne returns from injury.

It is appears Klopp still isn't ready to thrust 31-year-old Ragnar Klavan back into the first-team after his poor performances in previous games.

And the former Borussia Dortmund chief is ready to bring Loris Karius back into the first-team fold after Simon Mignolet's poor showings of late.

Karius has failed to hold down the number one spot at Liverpool since arriving for £7m last summer.

Liverpool currently sit ninth in the table, 12 points off league leaders Manchester City.

Klopp's men entertain Huddersfield this weekend, who will be buoyed after a shock win against Manchester United on Saturday.


I would like to be proven wrong but Gomez, TAA and Karius starting won't be better.


TAA and Gomes are too young tbh. Our team is actually under high pressure. There were a lot of critics even before our start of the season and you can feel the pressure is putting on the players shoulder. I dont think a lot of young players can cope with those pressures tho. However, both Klavan and Gomes had their career low point at the same time and Gomes is the only sensible choice for us in the short run. Chances will be given to Lovern again before Jan as if his form is normal, he is not that bad. But I see we will go for someone in Jan.

For Karius, I want him to be the first choice before the start of the season. He was outstanding in bundesliga and it took him some time to adapt to the EPL games and also to adapt to the pressure of playing in a great team. But his style is more modern. He rushes out fast and can clear the dangers before they actually occurred.
Someone may say Migs is better in handling but I think a good GK didnt need to do so many saves. I remember Reina didnt make a lot saves at all. He just come out and clear the balls before the danger actually occurred. You can see it clearly in Citeh game and Spurs game. We have some through ball to Mane and Salah. If the through ball is made against Liverpool, do you think Migs can clear them? Absolutely not. Our back line will be criticised of playing too high and slow. However, Ederson did a great job to clear the ball and earn a red card to send off Mane. Thats the different. Ederson didnt make many saves but he actually saves the game. I dont see Migs has these attributes and Migs may be more suitable for a mid table team who always sit back and inviting the opponents to shoot.

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Karius has dropped clangers before though.

Just because Migs is poor doesn't make him good enough.

I think it would be right to bring in Karius and Gomez for the Hudds game. At rb I would put Milner or maybe Can to give us some more experience in the defensive department.

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It's pointless putting a plaster on a gaping wound.
The Coaching needs to be seriously addressed, there is no cohension as a defensive unit, it's been a problem for years!
We can't cross our fingers and hope for the best, we are going to bleed goals unless we bring in somebody with experience to take over the Defensive side of our Coaching.

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Exactly.

That is step 1, 2 and 3.

Before we have tried that it's impossible to know for certain exactly which of our (defensive) players are good/bad enough at defending and can be kept/have to be shipped out.

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