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2017:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Man City 1st - 25pts GD 28
Man Utd 2nd - 20pts GD 18
Spurs 3rd - 20pts GD 13
Chelsea 4th - 16pts GD 7
Arsenal 5th - 16pts GD 5
Newcastle 7th - 14pts GD 2
Liverpool 9th - 13pts GD -2

2016:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Man City 1st - 20pts GD 11
Arsenal 2nd - 20pts GD 10
Chelsea 3rd - 19pts GD 10
Liverpool 4th - 19pts GD 9
Spurs 5th - 19pts GD 9
Everton 6th - 15pts GD 5
Man Utd 7th - 14pts GD 5

2015:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Man City 1st - 21pts GD 16
Arsenal 2nd - 19pts GD 9
Man Utd 3rd - 19pts GD 7
West Ham 4th - 17pts GD 8
Leicester 5th - 16pts GD 2
Spurs 7th - 14pts GD 4
Liverpool 10th - 13pts GD -2
Chelsea 12th - 11pts GD -3

2014:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Chelsea 1st - 22pts GD 15
Southampton 2nd - 19pts GD 15
Man City 3rd - 17pts GD 9
West Ham 4th - 16pts GD 5
Arsenal 5th - 14pts GD 4
Liverpool 7th - 14pts GD 1
Man Utd 8th - 13pts GD 3
Spurs 11th - 11pts GD -2

2013:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Arsenal 1st - 19pts
Chelsea 2nd - 17pts
Liverpool 3rd - 17pts
Man City 4th - 16pts
Spurs 5th - 16pts
Man Utd 8th - 11pts

2012:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Chelsea 1st - 22pts
Man Utd 2nd - 21pts
Man City 3rd - 21 pts
Spurs 4th - 17pts
Arsenal 6th - 15pts
Liverpool 12th - 10pts

2011:- Premier League Standings: After Week 9
Man City 1st - 25pts GD 26
Man Utd 2nd - 20pts GD 14
Chelsea 3rd - 19pts GD 10
Newcastle 4th - 19pts GD 6
Spurs 5th - 16pts GD 2
Liverpool 6th - 15pts GD 2
Arsenal 7th - 13pts GD -3

I'm pretty sure Rodgers was sacked for something similar.

After 77 games Klopp has 49% win rate. 98 conceded.
Rafa. 55% win rate. 67 conceded.
Rodgers. 56% 94 conceded.


I like attacking football. But winning trophies was more fun.

There's a remarkable similarity for this season to the 2011 season with City on the same amount of points and a hefty GD already with Utd 5pts off and Newcastle doing well.

The last time we were 12 pts behind after 9 games the 2012 season when we finished 7th 28 pts behind the winners Man Utd, with City in 2nd, Chelsea 3rd, Arsenal 4th, Spurs 5th and Everton 6th. That season we were 12 pts off 4th place!

It's not even November and our Premier League season is effectively over for a title tilt and we are already playing catch up to hold on to the coat tails of a Top 4 spot.

Our EPL season was over the minute we didn't strengthen the defence!

Not good reading really and after last season we should be doing much better.

I remember the good old days when our season was over by the end of January, 6 months in to a season.

Now our season is over 2 months in to a season!

Manure - 1989/1990

5-1 defeat to Manchester City and fan holds sign up saying, "3 YEARS OF EXCUSES AND IT’S STILL C**P - TA RA FERGIE"

and then Robbins infamous FA Cup goal saves Fergies job ....


Utd's record before winning the league under Slur :

1986-87: LEAGUE: 11th
1987-88: LEAGUE: 2nd
1988-89: LEAGUE: 11th
1989-90: LEAGUE: 13th. FA CUP: Winners.
1990-91: LEAGUE: 6th. Cup Winners’ Cup winners.
1991-92: LEAGUE: 2nd. LEAGUE CUP: Winners.
1992-93: LEAGUE: Winners.


Gotta keep the faith.

This isn't the 1990s. We now have regulated transfer windows and far greater money involved in the game. Need to stop thinking about what past teams have achieved.

Maybe Klopp will start quoting Rudyard Kipling?

It's a different era.

Even this season is a million miles away from 3 years ago.

When palace are spending £60mil on sahko and Benteke and Everton are spending £150mil in a season. You know it's fukked up.

I quoted Kipling in a post 2 days ago and I doubt if anyone recognised it....he's wasting his time!