KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum An email from a fan about FSG and Klopp

I think one of the problems we have is that it's not that FSG are bad owners it's just that they are the wrong owners...There lies a massive difference here...we think of it as a football club and they think of it as a business...if it's a business then they are very good for us...if you think of us as a football club then they are the wrong type of owners...the answer to this is...is football in 2017 a business or is it still about Football...
The only other option is if you want owners who want a toy...plaything or have more money then sense like City, Chelsea and PSG, who are basically what you are competing with, then you have to ask yourself how many of them are there in the world who want to buy a football club...

Yeah, we can say H&G were bad owners as we were at the high court being pretty much wound up when the court forced them (via the board) to sell to FSG.

Troblem is FSG keep us financially sound and tinking over, but unless we strike it amazingly lucky and buy the next Dele All/Coutinho/VvD/Kane before they become well known and also bring through our own youth and get a group like Gerrard/Carragher/Fowler/Owen, we will never have the funds to truly compete for the league, good managers like Klopp can pull the occasional rabbit out of the hat and polish a few t&rds, but not transform a team of em like we need.

The Investment thing is interesting, FSG have been quite open at seeking significant investment, I just don't see it happening, their basically saying, we run it and take most of the profits and any glory, new investor pays for it !!! any investor with 100's of millions like they would want, will want to own any club and run it themselves, you can also end up with stand off's like Arsenal have, where 2 very rich people are vying to own the club, and neither willing to invest what's needed until it's their toy and the other has gone.

What is weird is the fact these are hard nosed businessmen and yet they've had the newly extended Main Stand open for over a year now and the naming rights STILL haven't been sorted. That's in the region of about 10 million GBP lost for a year!

Yep and I would add 2 comments, one who are those billionaires who are waiting to buy us and two, what huge profits they are making now? Does the mail poster or dunk have any more info on that?

To make a club easy to sell would mean 1 or 2 of these points being fullfilled:

1. A low selling price is accepted by the owner
2. The club being in immaculate condition both economy and sport wise

N:o 1 is not in FSG's interest. Quite the contrary. They want more than anyone would be willing to pay.

N:o 2 is definitely not a fact. Sport wise we're more far away from the right position than we have been for many years.

This all makes me come to the conclusion that FSG really don't want to sell us anytime soon. They instead want to make us a cash cow and line their pockets.

So far it hasn't worked that well since the fans among other things made the walk out to protest against their new ticket price structure. After that I think FSG have lost interest in the club a bit. They are still thinking about a way to make (more) profit from the club on a yearly basis. That's all they can do since no one would want to buy the club from them for a price that would make them walk away.

We're stuck with them and they're stuck with us.

Why would FSG sell....look at it this way virtually every football Club in the world has to win things in order to keep there fans spending and engaged, to win things you have to invest money and to win major trophies you need to invest hundreds of millions. There are probably a handful of clubs in the world maybe two in Spain, two in Italy, one in Germany, two in Hollander and one in Scotland who will still have an engaged fanbase even if they stopped winning trophies...reason being because of there history, in this country we have two also United and US....

So basically FSG have bought one of those special Clubs for a knockdown below market price knowing full well customers will still put there hands in there pockets even if we don't win trophies...like I say not many Clubs are lucky to be in that position.

The other thing which helps FSG which is rare and doesn't happen anywhere not even at the Clubs mentioned is that if FSG don't put there hands in there pockets or win the League we have a fanbase that doesn't mind.....doesn't kick up a fuss....doesn't protest and puts zero pressure on owners to make us successful....our fanbase is basically any owner or FSG's wet dream....imagine...
I know for a fact that if FSG adopted those tactics at United, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, Munich or Juventus there would be mass protests and burning of effigies...but our fanbase accepts our position...just my thoughts...

I am one of those posters who think Klopp is a fraud and I will stand by that...time will prove me right however I think Klopp will be given time and I am happy to allow that in order to prove my theory right.
You say Klopp is one of the only managers who could get us fourth last season...have to disagree again on that...I believe any manager in the top half of the table with our resources...no European football and more importantly Arsenal totally imploding and from Ened of February United putting all there eggs in the Europa League basket.
This season was more of a truer test of Klopps managerial ability as he would of started. The season with the same handicap as the other top teams as regards European football and domestic trophies. If you look up to now he has been found out big time, already out of one Cup at first hurdle, yet to secure a victory in the easiest group of all British teams and already well off the pace in the League....no coincidence for me...

Really? Bit like yerself then really?
Very generous of you btw

Why would you want to give a manager time who's clearly not good enough (to you) just to prove yourself right? I thought you loved the club and wanted us to win things?

Careful growler or the big man will be sticking up for him.