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Meanwhile, Pep wades in.
Good on him, and I agree.

Disgusting and very sad scenes out there.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...rendum-violence

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27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


And look how well that is working out for you.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
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the biggest problem is a civil war...wtf does madrid think it is doing, its not franco times anymore...assholes


A huge overreaction by the Spanish Government. A shameful day for Spain and democracy.
What do you expect from a right winger.


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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


And look how well that is working out for you.


Most countries in the EU would swop with Britain in a moment the traffic between Britain and the EU is one way for people - to Britain. But as always you miss the point the rest of the EU has not been given the democratic option of expressing the view whether they want to be part of the EU or not nor do I think they will be given the chance the EU knows what the answer will be


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


Only a British party won an election after promising a referendum so don't talk nonsense and it's not the EU who dictates who should get a referendum or not

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


Only a British party won an election after promising a referendum so don't talk nonsense and it's not the EU who dictates who should get a referendum or not


That's not strictly true the conservatives promised an election not because they wanted one but because they had no choice it was people power that got us a referendum and hopefully the same will happen for the people of Europe anti EU parties are already gaining in power just as they did in Britain in 2013 and 2014


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Probably Ireland the only exception and that was a one off event as far as I am aware the borders of Wales Scotland and England are fairly static and have been for many centuries if not thousands of years whereas in Europe they change in living memory. There is a bar on the border of I think Belgium and Holland and the border goes right through the bar and the bar has different licensing laws so you order a drink the barman says sorry last orders have gone but if you step a yard to the right I can serve you for another two hours because you are in a different country. This is because the border has been redrafted many times often within recent generations. If you remember just after the referendum result Scotland declared they wanted to seperate from Britain and join the EU the EU rejected this why ? Because they did not want to encourage break up in Europe which is a big danger for them


I think you will find that both Scotland and Wales have at various times in their history fought for their independence from England.

Britain has also faced armed resistance from countries striving to claim their independence throughout your history. Those countries include USA, South Africa and Ireland. Britain has caused plenty of conflict around the globe.


Scotland has always been independent from Britain it was a union not a takeover yes there were wars in the Middle Ages but the borders have remained static. As for britains involvement overseas that is irrelevant to the point being made and many of the European countries (like Spain for example) were doing the same thing however to repeat its completely irrelevant to the point only you could turn the Catalan dispute into brit bashing


What the hell are you talking about, so what is the SNP doing right now?

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


Only a British party won an election after promising a referendum so don't talk nonsense and it's not the EU who dictates who should get a referendum or not


That's not strictly true the conservatives promised an election not because they wanted one but because they had no choice it was people power that got us a referendum and hopefully the same will happen for the people of Europe anti EU parties are already gaining in power just as they did in Britain in 2013 and 2014


You can hope as much as you want but most Europeans are proud to be Europeans while a lot of British people are still dreaming of their empire

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
27 of the 28 countries are happy with the arrangement ?

Except none of them have been asked

Only Britain so far given the choice


And look how well that is working out for you.


Most countries in the EU would swop with Britain in a moment the traffic between Britain and the EU is one way for people - to Britain. But as always you miss the point the rest of the EU has not been given the democratic option of expressing the view whether they want to be part of the EU or not nor do I think they will be given the chance the EU knows what the answer will be


Most people in the EU think the UK is absolutely bonkers. Why in this modern age would a country want to become isolationist and protectionist.

One way traffic in your mind obviously doesn't include the 1.2 millions brits living in Europe.

Britain is not the land of milk and honey.

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