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Originally Posted By van Gogh
When do we think Klopp will start to instruct our players how to defend at set pieces?

Surely it is not only VVD of all people in the world who is capable of that too?

Working with the players you have is what is most important for a manager. Why is Klopp not doing just that when it comes to our defensive problems?


Does he know how to? 2 years in and we still look like a Sunday Football team.

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Originally Posted By TrueRed
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When do we think Klopp will start to instruct our players how to defend at set pieces?

Surely it is not only VVD of all people in the world who is capable of that too?

Working with the players you have is what is most important for a manager. Why is Klopp not doing just that when it comes to our defensive problems?


Does he know how to? 2 years in and we still look like a Sunday Football team.


Klopp won the Bundesliga twice and got to the CL final, you do not achieve that without knowing how to defend, so I guess he knows how to defend/setup a team.

He has identified defense as a problem as he was desperate to bring in VvD, so he knows he needs better players. Hopefully he can coach it into them, but there's only so much you can do with someone like Klavan, there is a reason he was £4 million, so we can't expect him to become a £30 million player, he was never meant to be starter/third choice.

I would be curious to know how the coaching worked at Dortmund, did Klopp do it all? as it feels to me he needs help, particularly from people experienced in the PL, as how the smaller club play in the PL is probably different to Germany, he seems to have brought his own backroom staff in, which are probably mainly German with no PL experience?


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honestly if the players can't handle pressure then they need to examine their choice to become a professional footballer. The best teams all thrive under pressure when the odds are against them.


exactly Klopp should be sacked . hes the reason Migs,Hendo,Lovren,milner,moreno and many other unprofessional players are at Liverpool football club in the first place.


he's a reason(other being FSG) that 1)these guys are still here, and 2) no one better is here yet.

Keeping lovren, moreno etc was his decision. Regardless, organising a team and instilling confidence is a manager's job and Klopp has to answer for that


we wont be any good if this rapid selling had happened. hes the manager n he knows best. do you think an entirely new back four would have done any better this early?


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Originally Posted By AngryAsianRed
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[quote=AngryAsianRed]@Liverotto

honestly if the players can't handle pressure then they need to examine their choice to become a professional footballer. The best teams all thrive under pressure when the odds are against them.


instilling confidence is a manager's job and Klopp has to answer for that



if you arent sure that Klopp is the best one out there to do that and hes doing it.every pre n post game presser then we have no hope. wait for roy hodgson


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Originally Posted By Muj
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[quote=AngryAsianRed]@Liverotto

honestly if the players can't handle pressure then they need to examine their choice to become a professional footballer. The best teams all thrive under pressure when the odds are against them.


instilling confidence is a manager's job and Klopp has to answer for that



if you arent sure that Klopp is the best one out there to do that and hes doing it.every pre n post game presser then we have no hope. wait for roy hodgson


Klopp is trying to instill confidence in the squad, look at Moreno, he's been talking him up and playing him, saying how he improved he is and we are slagging him off for it. But I think such a role reversal from banished from the team for a season then back to No.1 LB doesn't make sense to most of us???

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thats because Milner was playing there.we dont know what happened behind scenes last season.if theres tad bit improvement in Moreno so far this season then we have every reason to believe whatever Klopp did with him last season has worked


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Originally Posted By Muj
thats because Milner was playing there.we dont know what happened behind scenes last season.if theres tad bit improvement in Moreno so far this season then we have every reason to believe whatever Klopp did with him last season has worked


Moreno still looks like an accident waiting to happen to me, his positional sense is suspect to say the least.

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and how is anyone else not an accident waiting to happen. when team is [oops] or short in confidence everyone Coccks up. its just that some are singled out


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Moreno has a history of making mistakes and being caught out of position over a few seasons, so people are going to be suspicious of the new & improved Moreno as discovered by Klopp, especially how Klopp has treated him, if he's turned into a quality LB who can defend, I will be very happy !

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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
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thats because Milner was playing there.we dont know what happened behind scenes last season.if theres tad bit improvement in Moreno so far this season then we have every reason to believe whatever Klopp did with him last season has worked


Moreno still looks like an accident waiting to happen to me, his positional sense is suspect to say the least.


But he is great going forward, better than both Robertson and Milner and this is what Klopp likes.

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