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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
City and Chelsea want vvd they just pulled out as they know that he won't go there ?


If they wanted VVD they would try to get a deal with Southampton and then convince the player which won't be too hard as City or Chelsea can offer at least what we can and their managers are as good.

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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
City and Chelsea want vvd they just pulled out as they know that he won't go there ?


They also know that Southampton now won't sell to us. Why have they not gone back in for him for the quoted £75m if a deal with us now looks dead?


Because based on their own targets VvD isn't as important for their clubs as is for us. If anything we did a successful job at putting off the competition , before the "tapping up" and price hike Chelsea and City weren't going to fight for his signature when he made it clear who he wants to join.

So we are responsible for destroying the bidding war, hence Southamptons anger.

What's the point puffing our chest and getting Klopp if we are going to half do things and tie his hands . We may as well have kept Brendan Rodgers and not signed Klopp , talk about saving money klopp's wages are higher than BR so if we are going to make things difficult for Klopp then let's just assume our role as a moneyball team. Get back BR and enjoy mid-table with a rare top4 push once every 4 years


If Klopp was happy with the new asking price he'd be our player by now so the only one tying his hands is himself.

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I may be overreacting , but just going off what information we are given .
Looks like YouTube took the video down of BR explaining the transfer committee, "Fenway we come not to pay" have a ~12 minute video on it which explains how the committee works and that BR didn't have final say , and it seems they have softened a bit with Klopp but it is just very suspicious how the transfer activity is panning out..

On a positive note? No LFC media outlet or even LFC fan-made YouTube are documenting the recent VvD request to Southampton ,
Maybe LFC have briefed LFC media outlets to keep quiet to not upset So'ton as we wait for the transfer request to begin transfer talks.

As it stands I think VvD and his agent as still in communication with LFC and it's a timed strategic move , I don't think VvD will make such comments if not given the green light by LFC,

It's a waiting game, and ultimately "if" transfer request is handed in we will see how competent LFC suits are to complete the deal, and then we will see if klopp's hands are tied or not ..

If we miss out on VvD because unwilling to pay extra 5 million that is guaranteed that Klopp isn't having final say because Klopp wants the deal done ASAP , we knew that from his press conference post middleborough , let's hope LFC suits learnt from the mistakes .


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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
I may be overreacting , but just going off what information we are given .
Looks like YouTube took the video down of BR explaining the transfer committee, "Fenway we come not to pay" have a ~12 minute video on it which explains how the committee works and that BR didn't have final say , and it seems they have softened a bit with Klopp but it is just very suspicious how the transfer activity is panning out..

On a positive note? No LFC media outlet or even LFC fan-made YouTube are documenting the recent VvD request to Southampton ,
Maybe LFC have briefed LFC media outlets to keep quiet to not upset So'ton as we wait for the transfer request to begin transfer talks.

As it stands I think VvD and his agent as still in communication with LFC and it's a timed strategic move , I don't think VvD will make such comments if not given the green light by LFC,

It's a waiting game, and ultimately "if" transfer request is handed in we will see how competent LFC suits are to complete the deal, and then we will see if klopp's hands are tied or not ..

If we miss out on VvD because unwilling to pay extra 5 million that is guaranteed that Klopp isn't having final say because Klopp wants the deal done ASAP , we knew that from his press conference post middleborough , let's hope LFC suits learnt from the mistakes .


Yes you are over reacting. I am more concerned with the LB position as there is not much said on that front for whatever reasons

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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
I may be overreacting , but just going off what information we are given .
Looks like YouTube took the video down of BR explaining the transfer committee, "Fenway we come not to pay" have a ~12 minute video on it which explains how the committee works and that BR didn't have final say , and it seems they have softened a bit with Klopp but it is just very suspicious how the transfer activity is panning out..

On a positive note? No LFC media outlet or even LFC fan-made YouTube are documenting the recent VvD request to Southampton ,
Maybe LFC have briefed LFC media outlets to keep quiet to not upset So'ton as we wait for the transfer request to begin transfer talks.

As it stands I think VvD and his agent as still in communication with LFC and it's a timed strategic move , I don't think VvD will make such comments if not given the green light by LFC,

It's a waiting game, and ultimately "if" transfer request is handed in we will see how competent LFC suits are to complete the deal, and then we will see if klopp's hands are tied or not ..

If we miss out on VvD because unwilling to pay extra 5 million that is guaranteed that Klopp isn't having final say because Klopp wants the deal done ASAP , we knew that from his press conference post middleborough , let's hope LFC suits learnt from the mistakes .


Yes you are over reacting. I am more concerned with the LB position as there is not much said on that front for whatever reasons


Surely Milner and Moreno aren't tat bad to rotate ?
We did well with Milner and Moreno did well in 15/16 surely we can rotate them and not be a catastrophe? Not saying it's perfect when we turn down Napoli LB for Moreno maybe Klopp sees more value in the player than we do?


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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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I may be overreacting , but just going off what information we are given .
Looks like YouTube took the video down of BR explaining the transfer committee, "Fenway we come not to pay" have a ~12 minute video on it which explains how the committee works and that BR didn't have final say , and it seems they have softened a bit with Klopp but it is just very suspicious how the transfer activity is panning out..

On a positive note? No LFC media outlet or even LFC fan-made YouTube are documenting the recent VvD request to Southampton ,
Maybe LFC have briefed LFC media outlets to keep quiet to not upset So'ton as we wait for the transfer request to begin transfer talks.

As it stands I think VvD and his agent as still in communication with LFC and it's a timed strategic move , I don't think VvD will make such comments if not given the green light by LFC,

It's a waiting game, and ultimately "if" transfer request is handed in we will see how competent LFC suits are to complete the deal, and then we will see if klopp's hands are tied or not ..

If we miss out on VvD because unwilling to pay extra 5 million that is guaranteed that Klopp isn't having final say because Klopp wants the deal done ASAP , we knew that from his press conference post middleborough , let's hope LFC suits learnt from the mistakes .


Yes you are over reacting. I am more concerned with the LB position as there is not much said on that front for whatever reasons


Surely Milner and Moreno aren't tat bad to rotate ?
We did well with Milner and Moreno did well in 15/16 surely we can rotate them and not be a catastrophe? Not saying it's perfect when we turn down Napoli LB for Moreno maybe Klopp sees more value in the player than we do?



If we go into next season with Milner and Moreno as our LB options I'll be livid!

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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I may be overreacting , but just going off what information we are given .
Looks like YouTube took the video down of BR explaining the transfer committee, "Fenway we come not to pay" have a ~12 minute video on it which explains how the committee works and that BR didn't have final say , and it seems they have softened a bit with Klopp but it is just very suspicious how the transfer activity is panning out..

On a positive note? No LFC media outlet or even LFC fan-made YouTube are documenting the recent VvD request to Southampton ,
Maybe LFC have briefed LFC media outlets to keep quiet to not upset So'ton as we wait for the transfer request to begin transfer talks.

As it stands I think VvD and his agent as still in communication with LFC and it's a timed strategic move , I don't think VvD will make such comments if not given the green light by LFC,

It's a waiting game, and ultimately "if" transfer request is handed in we will see how competent LFC suits are to complete the deal, and then we will see if klopp's hands are tied or not ..

If we miss out on VvD because unwilling to pay extra 5 million that is guaranteed that Klopp isn't having final say because Klopp wants the deal done ASAP , we knew that from his press conference post middleborough , let's hope LFC suits learnt from the mistakes .


Yes you are over reacting. I am more concerned with the LB position as there is not much said on that front for whatever reasons


Surely Milner and Moreno aren't tat bad to rotate ?
We did well with Milner and Moreno did well in 15/16 surely we can rotate them and not be a catastrophe? Not saying it's perfect when we turn down Napoli LB for Moreno maybe Klopp sees more value in the player than we do?



If we go into next season with Milner and Moreno as our LB options I'll be livid!


Looks mostly likely we'll be signing Roberston who to me will be an understudy to milner. I can't see him being much off an upgrade. I'll be happy enough with that as long as moreno is gone and we bring in good players in more pressing positions

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Robertson is a lot better than Milner and Moreno in my opinion.

I don't see why we don't try and sign the Celtic left back Tierney though.

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What I'm getting at is that even the mega rich clubs don't think what Southampton are now asking is a fair price so why should we, a not mega rich club, just pay up and get mugged?

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They both wanted him and would both go for him if his transfer to us broke down. They, like us, know that they want an unreasonable fee. Simple as that. It's not to say they'd convince him though.

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