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Originally Posted By EMP
It is an interesting question why no isis attacks on israel ..could it be that saudi is isis and saudi and israel are on the same team v the shia. I have no doubt that the headcases in isis would like to attack them but when they are being trained and given logistical and supply and support by saudi military it would prob work against them to attack america's best friend.


That's a huge conspiracy theory and I still don't understand your love to the Shias when they have been responsible for the murder of so many Syrians who are against the Assad regime. The Shias are also against the existence of Israel and used to occupy Lebanon (Hezbollah and the Syrian regime)

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Originally Posted By EMP
maybe he's been reading ur posts.


Well don't get into a number count your posts absolve all blame for Islamic terrorism it's all our fault hence justified if we are to believe you


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I have no love of anyone killing anybody but their is clear evidence that the shia are the oppressed people in this scenario. go all the way back to the west toppling their democratic govt, to the iraq/iran war , to israels treatment of shia and now to this manufactured civil war. And its not really a conspiracy theory either.. the neocons published a whole paper saying how they wanted to invade iraq, destroy syria and put the shia community on the back foot-u can read it online( project for a new american century).. also love to know what that fat idiot trump said when he visited , as soon as he did isis attacks in iran, qatar isolated from sunni's and now more direct attacks on syrian forces( meaning greater chance of russia clash) .

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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maybe he's been reading ur posts.


Well don't get into a number count your posts absolve all blame for Islamic terrorism it's all our fault hence justified if we are to believe you


still going with the thatcherism tactic of dealing with terrorism..make false accusations and talk hate talk.. was peace in ireland only when that kinda crap was flushed down the toilet..

just for the record again for the thousand time..i don't justify any terrorist attack but like the n.ireland scenario i know where the path to peace lies..and ur way off the path

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You cant compare radical Islam with the troubles with the IRA they make no demands other than they want all unbelievers dead. And wheras the problems in Ulster were in dispute with only the British state radical Islam is against every unbeliever on the globe across all nations. And it's not even Islam against the rest we have Sunni and Shia and no end of factions most Muslims are killed by other Muslims. And were we to negotiate with them what would we offer up ? They only kill 40% of us ? It's a terrifying threat we face while all this was going on in the UK another attack occurred today in Paris. To morrow it could be anywhere but I notice Europe is the main area in the firing line not USA which seems odd if it was to do with foreign policy as we keep being told


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Unemployed disenfranchised much bigger poorer muslim communities in europe than in usa, and they are all influenced by the middle east -that much is obvious to a child.

The troubles in Ireland were off a civil rights nature, where the state took the side of the crazy oppressors. Peace only came when that stopped.

Stan you have no solution or proper explanation other than Muslims are evil ..its not going anywhere. When the west acts properly in the middle east the terrorism threat will decrease. Just as sure as the terrorism experts who told blair that terrorism will hit the uk if u invade iraq.

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Originally Posted By EMP
Unemployed disenfranchised much bigger poorer muslim communities in europe than in usa, and they are all influenced by the middle east -that much is obvious to a child.

The troubles in Ireland were off a civil rights nature, where the state took the side of the crazy oppressors. Peace only came when that stopped.

Stan you have no solution or proper explanation other than Muslims are evil ..its not going anywhere. When the west acts properly in the middle east the terrorism threat will decrease. Just as sure as the terrorism experts who told blair that terrorism will hit the uk if u invade iraq.


That simply is not true the profile of most Muslim terrorists is they are not poor in fact they are normally employed and well educated. But in any case being poor is no reason to strap a bomb and blow up teenage girls. I put its you emp that has no idea I live in the UK and I have grown up with the segregated communities. Towns like Blackburn and Preston are divided down the middle. This is a long way from cork. A long way. And if it was to do with foreign policy then surely the terrorists would be coming from those countries not the UK and Europe. It's also not true all Muslims in America are rich quite the opposite but what is true is America has a small Muslim population relative to America. For example France has ten times the population Britain six times and the terrorist incidents are in volume to populations

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A "restricted" 12 June 2008 MI5 analysis of "several hundred individuals known to be involved in, or closely associated with, violent extremist activity" concludes that British Islamist terrorists "are a diverse collection of individuals, fitting no single demographic profile, nor do they all follow a typical pathway to violent extremism".[18]

Around half were born in the United Kingdom, the majority are British nationals and the remainder, with a few exceptions, are in the country legally. Most UK terrorists are male, but women are sometimes aware of their husbands', brothers' or sons' activities. While the majority are in their early to mid-20s when they become radicalised, a small but not insignificant minority first become involved in violent extremism over the age of 30. Those over 30 are just as likely to have a wife and children as to be loners with no ties. MI5 says this challenges the idea that terrorists are young Muslim men driven by sexual frustration and lured to "martyrdom" by the promise of beautiful virgins waiting for them in paradise.[18]

Those involved in Islamist terrorism have educational achievement ranging from total lack of qualifications to degree-level education. However, they are almost all employed in low-grade jobs.[18]

Far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could actually be regarded as religious novices. Very few have been brought up in strongly religious households, and there is a higher than average proportion of converts. Some are involved in drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes. The report claims a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation, while the influence of clerics in radicalising Islamist terrorists has reduced in recent years

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Muslims in France are even more segregated and isolated.. and yes that is no excuse to blow people up but it is obviously a social issue that needs addressed.

You have no solutions..just spreading hate and fear and yet don't have the backbone to say hey we shouldn't be dealing with nutjob regimes like saudi arabia cause they spawn the hate against us.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
You cant compare radical Islam with the troubles with the IRA they make no demands other than they want all unbelievers dead. And wheras the problems in Ulster were in dispute with only the British state radical Islam is against every unbeliever on the globe across all nations. And it's not even Islam against the rest we have Sunni and Shia and no end of factions most Muslims are killed by other Muslims. And were we to negotiate with them what would we offer up ? They only kill 40% of us ? It's a terrifying threat we face while all this was going on in the UK another attack occurred today in Paris. To morrow it could be anywhere but I notice Europe is the main area in the firing line not USA which seems odd if it was to do with foreign policy as we keep being told


I think that's because the US and Israel by the way have better security services. I was listening to an italian journalist saying that since the Red Army, they also have a relatively good anti terrorism system, thus they have less attacks.

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