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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries... Here's my counter argument You said "Players are not human beings.." I'm saying "Yes they are." THE END
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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries... Here's my counter argument You said "Players are not human beings.." I'm saying "Yes they are." THE END They are elite athletes. Not your average joe soap
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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries... Here's my counter argument You said "Players are not human beings.." I'm saying "Yes they are." THE END They are elite athletes. Not your average joe soap Not disputing that. He said they are not human beings, I said they are.
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If ONLY we had a Sakho to compliment Matip & Lovren as a back 3? I think Klopp has to change our formation and style because everybody has sussed us out. Points are going to be hard to come by if he persists with the same system. Our goals have dried up and that overwhelming figure we were excelling at (Most Goals Scored) has been well and truly reigned in by Arsenal, Chelsea & City!
Priorities in the summer has to be: Goalkeeper - Most important signing needed for me! Mignolet MUST be sold, he has not improved since he's been at the club and is GUARANTEED to be at fault for a lot of goals over the course of a season, due to his "Goldfish" concentration. His communication and distribution are not far behind his concentration level. I'd keep Karius as a back-up purely because he's still young and with a decent Goalkeeping Coach he can improve...which brings up JOHN ACHTERBERG!!! how is he still at the club?
Defence - The Milner @LB role has not worked, he keeps getting caught out, upfield when teams counter attack us because he is too slow. Yes he's got some nice assists figures but wouldn't that be improved even more if he was in his natural role? So a natural, quality LB needed! Klavan...meh...slower than mud and at an age that he is not going to improve, so get rid! Sakho has obviously burned his bridges with Klopp and there is no way back, so must be sold! Moreno is a liability, has had many chances to turn it around and has failed each time...must be sold! So at least 2 quality CB's needed and cover for both the incoming LB and Clyne with Gomez as cover along the backline.
Midfield - A quality natural DM needed (I'd put that position close behind Keeper in Urgency)...Kondogbia of Inter would be a great acquisition for this position. Other than that and maybe a fast winger who can play on either flank!
Attack - Sturridge we must sell on whilst he has any value, Klopp does not trust him! Keep Origi & Ings but get a quality, experienced, trustworthy, not injury prone Striker!
Mignolet, Sakho, Klavan, Moreno & Sturridge sold to bolster the transfer kitty for 7 Players & A Goalkeeping Coach! And that is to be at the very least competitive next season with Europa League likely to be in our fixture lists! If we don't buy a proper fukking goalkeeper in the summer then I'm going to join you lot in the hysterical camp! Over and above everything else, that HAS to be sorted!
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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries... Well as they say, there's no arguing with ...........
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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries... Here's my counter argument You said "Players are not human beings.." I'm saying "Yes they are." THE END They are elite athletes. Not your average joe soap Not disputing that. He said they are not human beings, I said they are. I agree with him to a point. Where if you are in a high profile job then you should work to that standard. I got a small promotion recently with a small pay rise. I am now constantly being reminded that I need to take on more responsibility and be responsible for people below me. This all from a small promotion in an already demanding job. Footballers are soft. It is not their fault,but the environment that was created for them. And because of the whole environment is it acceptable for a lot of them to not do their jobs and pick up their wages every week. And it is acceptable to a lot of fans that they do this as well. That is why I have no issue with someone questioning them. If you want to look at proper elite athletics actually doing their jobs and going beyond that, look at runners, cyclists, swimmers, olympians
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Hopefully klopp buys at least for the positions that we are desperate for but who ever he decides has the right skills i hope it includes someone with a gritty personality who can lead on the pitch, find a captain who can lead the team to start with, we have light weights when it comes to being vocal and getting stuck in imo.
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I agree with him to a point. Where if you are in a high profile job then you should work to that standard. I got a small promotion recently with a small pay rise. I am now constantly being reminded that I need to take on more responsibility and be responsible for people below me. This all from a small promotion in an already demanding job.
Footballers are soft. It is not their fault,but the environment that was created for them. And because of the whole environment is it acceptable for a lot of them to not do their jobs and pick up their wages every week. And it is acceptable to a lot of fans that they do this as well.
That is why I have no issue with someone questioning them. If you want to look at proper elite athletics actually doing their jobs and going beyond that, look at runners, cyclists, swimmers, olympians
So what happens when say Usain Bolt doesn't win a race? Has he done his job properly? Or Chris Froome if he doesn't win a race or falls from his bike? All athletes suffer from time to time and all of them need a rest. The Tour De France has rest days for example. There's usually a couple of days between the heats and the finals of races in the Olympics. Tennis players get a rest etc. Regardless of pay, they are still human beings and regardless of how fit they are they will still suffer fatigue as everyone does. To think they don't or shouldn't is a just a little wrong.
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Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.
Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.
So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
never believed in the nonsense of resting players . Unlike robots, human beings do need to be rested, I don't know about you but, I do get tired. Even if it is not physical there is burn out. I disagree with this, Players are not human beings...the reason for this is we have to take them on face value and nothing else and treat them fairly just the same as the rest of us are judged in our jobs. Simple...if a player puts his name on super human wages contract then am sorry he has to be judged on super human standards not the same standards as the rest of us. I will give you another example if ure a bricklayer and lay 20 bricks an hour for 100 quid a day and the boss offers you a contract for double that 200 quid a week but wants 40 bricks an hour and you put your name on that contract and don't deliver you can't have people saying he hasn't delivered because he's tired or it's not possible to work well all the time, don't put your name on a contract and expect not to be criticised if you don't do what you signed to do...simple... Players are not human beings, so what are they? We all knew you were stupid but not as much. Also, I don't think they mention the number of games they need to play in their contract, what is this nonsense? Regarding your bricklayer, so what happens if he cannot lay the bricks even if he has put his name I don't know where, does he get whipped? Maybe you didn't know in your hole, slavery has been abolished at least officially. You need to read a bit.
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I agree with him to a point. Where if you are in a high profile job then you should work to that standard. I got a small promotion recently with a small pay rise. I am now constantly being reminded that I need to take on more responsibility and be responsible for people below me. This all from a small promotion in an already demanding job.
Footballers are soft. It is not their fault,but the environment that was created for them. And because of the whole environment is it acceptable for a lot of them to not do their jobs and pick up their wages every week. And it is acceptable to a lot of fans that they do this as well.
That is why I have no issue with someone questioning them. If you want to look at proper elite athletics actually doing their jobs and going beyond that, look at runners, cyclists, swimmers, olympians
So what happens when say Usain Bolt doesn't win a race? Has he done his job properly? Or Chris Froome if he doesn't win a race or falls from his bike? All athletes suffer from time to time and all of them need a rest. The Tour De France has rest days for example. There's usually a couple of days between the heats and the finals of races in the Olympics. Tennis players get a rest etc. Regardless of pay, they are still human beings and regardless of how fit they are they will still suffer fatigue as everyone does. To think they don't or shouldn't is a just a little wrong. am sorry If Usain Bolt puts his name on a contract for 100 million pound a race you saying he's not expected to win every one and when he doesn't you think it's fair to use the excuse he's only human? Sorry no chance not in a million years. I will give you another example and use your Usain Bolt anology... If you are a runner and run 100 meters in 15 seconds and get paid 100k a race and a sponsor comes across and says they will pay you a million pound a race but you have to run it in 10 seconds firstly you have to decide wether you are able to put your name on the contract and run 10 seconds a race and if you do put your name on the contract are you telling me you shouldn't be expected to be judged on what you have said you will do and the money you will then be picking up. I think if a person picks up super human wages they definitely have to be judged by super human standards so the excuse they can't play well all the time doesn't apply with that sort of money involved especially when you have signed a contract which says you will play well all the time, can't manage it or don't like those judgement standards...simple don't sign the contract...
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