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Originally Posted By van Gogh
Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.

Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.

So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.


You cannot take Jan for your analysis as Jan is already the result following the number of times Wijnaldum played, You should rather take the period before Jan, basically since the beginning of the season. I wouldn't be surprised if Wijnaldum was one of the most used player in our whole squad

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Originally Posted By van Gogh
Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.

Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.

So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
never believed in the nonsense of resting players .

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Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.

Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.

So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
never believed in the nonsense of resting players .


Unlike robots, human beings do need to be rested, I don't know about you but, I do get tired. Even if it is not physical there is burn out.

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Exactly. To suggest a human being doesn't need resting after weeks of physical exertion is a little on the stupid side.

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If ONLY we had a Sakho to compliment Matip & Lovren as a back 3?
I think Klopp has to change our formation and style because everybody has sussed us out. Points are going to be hard to come by if he persists with the same system.
Our goals have dried up and that overwhelming figure we were excelling at (Most Goals Scored) has been well and truly reigned in by Arsenal, Chelsea & City!

Priorities in the summer has to be:
Goalkeeper - Most important signing needed for me! Mignolet MUST be sold, he has not improved since he's been at the club and is GUARANTEED to be at fault for a lot of goals over the course of a season, due to his "Goldfish" concentration. His communication and distribution are not far behind his concentration level.
I'd keep Karius as a back-up purely because he's still young and with a decent Goalkeeping Coach he can improve...which brings up JOHN ACHTERBERG!!! how is he still at the club?

Defence - The Milner @LB role has not worked, he keeps getting caught out, upfield when teams counter attack us because he is too slow. Yes he's got some nice assists figures but wouldn't that be improved even more if he was in his natural role?
So a natural, quality LB needed!
Klavan...meh...slower than mud and at an age that he is not going to improve, so get rid!
Sakho has obviously burned his bridges with Klopp and there is no way back, so must be sold!
Moreno is a liability, has had many chances to turn it around and has failed each time...must be sold!
So at least 2 quality CB's needed and cover for both the incoming LB and Clyne with Gomez as cover along the backline.

Midfield - A quality natural DM needed (I'd put that position close behind Keeper in Urgency)...Kondogbia of Inter would be a great acquisition for this position. Other than that and maybe a fast winger who can play on either flank!

Attack - Sturridge we must sell on whilst he has any value, Klopp does not trust him!
Keep Origi & Ings but get a quality, experienced, trustworthy, not injury prone Striker!

Mignolet, Sakho, Klavan, Moreno & Sturridge sold to bolster the transfer kitty for 7 Players & A Goalkeeping Coach! And that is to be at the very least competitive next season with Europa League likely to be in our fixture lists!

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Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
If ONLY we had a Sakho to compliment Matip & Lovren as a back 3?
I think Klopp has to change our formation and style because everybody has sussed us out. Points are going to be hard to come by if he persists with the same system.
Our goals have dried up and that overwhelming figure we were excelling at (Most Goals Scored) has been well and truly reigned in by Arsenal, Chelsea & City!

Priorities in the summer has to be:
Goalkeeper - Most important signing needed for me! Mignolet MUST be sold, he has not improved since he's been at the club and is GUARANTEED to be at fault for a lot of goals over the course of a season, due to his "Goldfish" concentration. His communication and distribution are not far behind his concentration level.
I'd keep Karius as a back-up purely because he's still young and with a decent Goalkeeping Coach he can improve...which brings up JOHN ACHTERBERG!!! how is he still at the club?

Defence - The Milner @LB role has not worked, he keeps getting caught out, upfield when teams counter attack us because he is too slow. Yes he's got some nice assists figures but wouldn't that be improved even more if he was in his natural role?
So a natural, quality LB needed!
Klavan...meh...slower than mud and at an age that he is not going to improve, so get rid!
Sakho has obviously burned his bridges with Klopp and there is no way back, so must be sold!
Moreno is a liability, has had many chances to turn it around and has failed each time...must be sold!
So at least 2 quality CB's needed and cover for both the incoming LB and Clyne with Gomez as cover along the backline.

Midfield - A quality natural DM needed (I'd put that position close behind Keeper in Urgency)...Kondogbia of Inter would be a great acquisition for this position. Other than that and maybe a fast winger who can play on either flank!

Attack - Sturridge we must sell on whilst he has any value, Klopp does not trust him!
Keep Origi & Ings but get a quality, experienced, trustworthy, not injury prone Striker!

Mignolet, Sakho, Klavan, Moreno & Sturridge sold to bolster the transfer kitty for 7 Players & A Goalkeeping Coach! And that is to be at the very least competitive next season with Europa League likely to be in our fixture lists!


Agree but bringing 7 new players in the squad is going to be an issue. This is why we needed a couple in the last window. Thus, work in progress again next season. Anyway, Klopp wanted to win the league in his 4th season, maybe this is what his target is, the rest is mere distraction

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
[/quote] Agree but bringing 7 new players in the squad is going to be an issue. This is why we needed a couple in the last window. Thus, work in progress again next season. Anyway, Klopp wanted to win the league in his 4th season, maybe this is what his target is, the rest is mere distraction


It's going to be an issue no matter which way we look at it. The squad is threadbare, lacking in quality and punched above it's weight the first few months of the season. FSG MUST put at least 100 mill up for transfers with the rest coming from players sold!

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.

Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.

So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
never believed in the nonsense of resting players .


Unlike robots, human beings do need to be rested, I don't know about you but, I do get tired. Even if it is not physical there is burn out.
I disagree with this, Players are not human beings...the reason for this is we have to take them on face value and nothing else and treat them fairly just the same as the rest of us are judged in our jobs.
Simple...if a player puts his name on super human wages contract then am sorry he has to be judged on super human standards not the same standards as the rest of us. I will give you another example if ure a bricklayer and lay 20 bricks an hour for 100 quid a day and the boss offers you a contract for double that 200 quid a week but wants 40 bricks an hour and you put your name on that contract and don't deliver you can't have people saying he hasn't delivered because he's tired or it's not possible to work well all the time, don't put your name on a contract and expect not to be criticised if you don't do what you signed to do...simple...

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Originally Posted By WiseOne
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.

Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.

So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
never believed in the nonsense of resting players .


Unlike robots, human beings do need to be rested, I don't know about you but, I do get tired. Even if it is not physical there is burn out.
I disagree with this, Players are not human beings...the reason for this is we have to take them on face value and nothing else and treat them fairly just the same as the rest of us are judged in our jobs.
Simple...if a player puts his name on super human wages contract then am sorry he has to be judged on super human standards not the same standards as the rest of us. I will give you another example if ure a bricklayer and lay 20 bricks an hour for 100 quid a day and the boss offers you a contract for double that 200 quid a week but wants 40 bricks an hour and you put your name on that contract and don't deliver you can't have people saying he hasn't delivered because he's tired or it's not possible to work well all the time, don't put your name on a contract and expect not to be criticised if you don't do what you signed to do...simple...


Complete nonsense

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Can't be none sense because you can't come up with a counter argument to prove it is, typical tho but no worries...

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