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From what I have seen of the 2 of them this season. Mingolet has been slightly better. At this point Mingolet needs to be sold in the summer. I'd put Karius back in the team to see what he has got. Give him a couple of games and decide from there.
Unless Karius really excels between now and the end of the season then we need an upgrade in the summer. If he can't up his game then he is not what we need.
We can't be dealing with this [oops] from a keeper next season. This will he or won't he up his game is not good enough unless we are aspiring to mid table. which is another topic.......... Except that he made a mistake in the last cup game as well and he really doesn't look confident. I would still go with Mignolet buy buy Hart or Schmeichel in the summer Yep, we definitely need a reliable keeper next season, should help our defenders also, I'd give Karius a run now to the end of the season to see if he is good enough and can step up, I do not think Migs is any better and he will drop more clangers, so I don't see it as a big risk and much to lose. Sell Migns in the summer, bring in either Hart or Schmeichael would be good number 1's or competition for Karius if he starts number 1.
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From what I have seen of the 2 of them this season. Mingolet has been slightly better. At this point Mingolet needs to be sold in the summer. I'd put Karius back in the team to see what he has got. Give him a couple of games and decide from there.
Unless Karius really excels between now and the end of the season then we need an upgrade in the summer. If he can't up his game then he is not what we need.
We can't be dealing with this [oops] from a keeper next season. This will he or won't he up his game is not good enough unless we are aspiring to mid table. which is another topic.......... Except that he made a mistake in the last cup game as well and he really doesn't look confident. I would still go with Mignolet buy buy Hart or Schmeichel in the summer Yep, we definitely need a reliable keeper next season, should help our defenders also, I'd give Karius a run now to the end of the season to see if he is good enough and can step up, I do not think Migs is any better and he will drop more clangers, so I don't see it as a big risk and much to lose. Sell Migns in the summer, bring in either Hart or Schmeichael would be good number 1's or competition for Karius if he starts number 1. From what I have seen lately, Karius is a bigger risk. I would play him as soon as we have no realistic chance of qualifying for CL anymore, which may come very soon.
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From what I have seen of the 2 of them this season. Mingolet has been slightly better. At this point Mingolet needs to be sold in the summer. I'd put Karius back in the team to see what he has got. Give him a couple of games and decide from there.
Unless Karius really excels between now and the end of the season then we need an upgrade in the summer. If he can't up his game then he is not what we need.
We can't be dealing with this [oops] from a keeper next season. This will he or won't he up his game is not good enough unless we are aspiring to mid table. which is another topic.......... Except that he made a mistake in the last cup game as well and he really doesn't look confident. I would still go with Mignolet buy buy Hart or Schmeichel in the summer Yep, we definitely need a reliable keeper next season, should help our defenders also, I'd give Karius a run now to the end of the season to see if he is good enough and can step up, I do not think Migs is any better and he will drop more clangers, so I don't see it as a big risk and much to lose. Sell Migns in the summer, bring in either Hart or Schmeichael would be good number 1's or competition for Karius if he starts number 1. From what I have seen lately, Karius is a bigger risk. I would play him as soon as we have no realistic chance of qualifying for CL anymore, which may come very soon. To me they are very similar ATM, Karius should improve over time, Migs is what we have seen for last 4 years, if we qualify for CL, it will be down to us outscoring teams 3-2/4-3 etc, like we did in the first half of the season, not on our defensive prowess/GK.
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To me they are very similar ATM, Karius should improve over time, Migs is what we have seen for last 4 years, if we qualify for CL, it will be down to us outscoring teams 3-2/4-3 etc, like we did in the first half of the season, not on our defensive prowess/GK.
Can't see us continue outscoring teams, even with Suarez and a firing Sturridge and Sterling we couldn't until the end of the season.
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To me they are very similar ATM, Karius should improve over time, Migs is what we have seen for last 4 years, if we qualify for CL, it will be down to us outscoring teams 3-2/4-3 etc, like we did in the first half of the season, not on our defensive prowess/GK.
Can't see us continue outscoring teams, even with Suarez and a firing Sturridge and Sterling we couldn't until the end of the season. I agree, I doubt we will do it, but we did first half of the season, but the whole team seems to have gone off the ball at the same time, I doubt Klopp will be able to turn us into a strong defensive unit for the second half of the season, unless he radically changes his system? I would be tempted to say sod it, go 3 at the back: Karius Can --- Matip -- Lovren Clyne -- Henderson -- Milner -- Coutinho Mane --- Sturridge --- Firminho was a close call between Milner/Wijnaldum, I just think Milner will give more defensive cover.
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To me they are very similar ATM, Karius should improve over time, Migs is what we have seen for last 4 years, if we qualify for CL, it will be down to us outscoring teams 3-2/4-3 etc, like we did in the first half of the season, not on our defensive prowess/GK.
Can't see us continue outscoring teams, even with Suarez and a firing Sturridge and Sterling we couldn't until the end of the season. I agree, I doubt we will do it, but we did first half of the season, but the whole team seems to have gone off the ball at the same time, I doubt Klopp will be able to turn us into a strong defensive unit for the second half of the season, unless he radically changes his system? I would be tempted to say sod it, go 3 at the back: Karius Can --- Matip -- Lovren Clyne -- Henderson -- Milner -- Coutinho Mane --- Sturridge --- Firminho was a close call between Milner/Wijnaldum, I just think Milner will give more defensive cover. I don't think we can play without any defensive player on the left. I would go with a 3-4-3 formation but with Moreno on the left, with a forward 3 of Coutinho, Firmino and Mane. Lallana would be the back up for the forward 3 or played with Milner or Henderson when we need more attack.
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To me they are very similar ATM, Karius should improve over time, Migs is what we have seen for last 4 years, if we qualify for CL, it will be down to us outscoring teams 3-2/4-3 etc, like we did in the first half of the season, not on our defensive prowess/GK.
Can't see us continue outscoring teams, even with Suarez and a firing Sturridge and Sterling we couldn't until the end of the season. I agree, I doubt we will do it, but we did first half of the season, but the whole team seems to have gone off the ball at the same time, I doubt Klopp will be able to turn us into a strong defensive unit for the second half of the season, unless he radically changes his system? I would be tempted to say sod it, go 3 at the back: Karius Can --- Matip -- Lovren Clyne -- Henderson -- Milner -- Coutinho Mane --- Sturridge --- Firminho was a close call between Milner/Wijnaldum, I just think Milner will give more defensive cover. I don't think we can play without any defensive player on the left. I would go with a 3-4-3 formation but with Moreno on the left, with a forward 3 of Coutinho, Firmino and Mane. Lallana would be the back up for the forward 3 or played with Milner or Henderson when we need more attack. Yeah, I was pondering Moreno, I think we 3 at the back would bring out the best in him (something has to!!!), I remember how Chelsea were struggling at the start of the season, Conte switched it around and it made a massive improvement, I think its worth a go at this stage, I think it suits the players we have better, its make or break time really.
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The problem is that we don't even have 3 good cb's!  On another note, I just saw that Wijnaldum has been named player of the month at LFC. That must be tough for him (and for Klopp), seeing as he is being kept out from the starting XI by the dreadful Can!  http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-te...-chartered-potm
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The problem is that we don't even have 3 good cb's! On another note, I just saw that Wijnaldum has been named player of the month at LFC. That must be tough for him (and for Klopp), seeing as he is being kept out from the starting XI by the dreadful Can! http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-te...-chartered-potm Wijnaldum has definitely been better than Can. I would rather think Can played because he was fresher, Wijnaldum has played a loy of games with a lot of pressing.
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Wijnaldum has played in 7 of our total of 10 games in January. Starting in 6 of them.
Can has played in 8 of our 10 games over the same period, starting in 7 of them.
So I'd say Wijnaldum has been rested for tactical reasons more than anything else, which is shocking considering Can's ability and recent form.
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