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ok mignolet made a mistake and deserves loads of stick , but to just blame him for the limp nothing performance is way off the mark , that emre can gave the original corner away under zero pressure , plus the defence was all over the place , and the forward line has stopped working , and how much i like klopp and i still believe in him , but he has to be blamed aswell as the look like they have been found out . I don't recall any of these mitigating circumstances being offered up by you for Karius? In fact you were the main protagonist in the witch hunt for him on here. I think what Faz meant is that we did not lose the game on Saturday only because of Mignolet. However, we lost the Bornemouth game because of Karius as we had score 3 and he made at least 2 blunders. Are you saying Karius is a better choice than Mignolet? For me both are crap, Karius is worse from what I have seen, he makes mistakes in most games he plays, some cost us some not, Mignolet also makes mistkes but less. I'm sorry vish but that don't wash with me. You can't say that Karius was soley responsible for the Bournemouth game and Miss wasn't for Hull. What kind of double standard is that? Why make up these mitigating circumstances for one and not the other? For me the two are no different apart from Migs has had more than three seasons to prove he's not good enough where as Karius barely had 10 games to improve. What Karius did mistake wise is nothing compared to what Migs has done yet he wasn't given a chance to improve. Now Migs has made his inevitable mistakes, he should be dropped as Karius was.
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Yep, completely agree there Wilks.
But dropping Mignolet now and putting Karius back between the sticks would not be any better IMO. We have no other options available and it's like making a choice between 2 equally bad things.
Migs is the slightly less bad option for me because his self confidence doesn't appear to have dropped like it clearly has for Karius.
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Can't believe people are talking about these two goalkeepers, both are as bad as each other, it's like asking would you rather be hit with a ton of bricks or a ton of steel both are exactly the same no difference. Instead of the question who is the better or worse keeper maybe people should be asking why has the manager put us in the situation where we are asking this question especially when we ha e just had s transfer window.
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Totally irrelevant argumentation atm.
The window has shut and we can't sign anyone now.
Hence the discussion about who to pick from those 2 keepers.
Aren't you always talking about focussing on the bad things to try and correct them? Well guess what: You can't sign a new keeper now, so stop arguing about that.
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the rot started at bournemouth ok won a couple after that but the doubt and rot was started at bournemouth , then west ham at home karuis again messed up . As I've stated your completely wrong here, after Bournemouth we drew at home to West Ham, then won four on the spin, Middlesbrough, Everton, Stoke and Man City before drawing to Sunderland. Going unbeaten in 6 games after Bournemouth and winning 4 of them is not even close to being a rot. Unfortunately you are blinded by your dislike for one player and the fact that you think it's acceptable to blame one player for our struggles and dip in form tells me everything I need to know. Exactly. He was the main cheerleader on here for kicking Karius out. It was a little embarrassing the way some treat our players.
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Totally irrelevant argumentation atm.
The window has shut and we can't sign anyone now.
Hence the discussion about who to pick from those 2 keepers.
Aren't you always talking about focussing on the bad things to try and correct them? Well guess what: You can't sign a new keeper now, so stop arguing about that. so can we not sign players out of contract then? Is there no goalkeepers out there whose contracts have expired even older one like Cassillas surely there's goalkeepers we could sign now .
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the rot started at bournemouth ok won a couple after that but the doubt and rot was started at bournemouth , then west ham at home karuis again messed up . As I've stated your completely wrong here, after Bournemouth we drew at home to West Ham, then won four on the spin, Middlesbrough, Everton, Stoke and Man City before drawing to Sunderland. Going unbeaten in 6 games after Bournemouth and winning 4 of them is not even close to being a rot. Unfortunately you are blinded by your dislike for one player and the fact that you think it's acceptable to blame one player for our struggles and dip in form tells me everything I need to know. Exactly. He was the main cheerleader on here for kicking Karius out. It was a little embarrassing the way some treat our players. yes you probably mean me as I wanted him out the team, my fault, what am I thinking by expecting a player who pulls on a red shirt to have a certain level of performance in him. I apologise for treating him like an employee and I know he doesn't see playing for Liverpool as s job, I am to blame thinking I have a right to demand a level of performance out of players at just a mere 60 quid a game I pay and it doesn't give you the right of that sort of opinion, like I say it's my fault he should play every game and anybody who has s go at these 100k a week players for going through the motions should hang there heads in shame me included. Before I forget Y.N.W.A as if you say that the magical power engulfs us all...
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How can I be talking about you? You weren't even registered when Karius got dropped?
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How can I be talking about you? You weren't even registered when Karius got dropped? i am one of the posters you are referring too who wanted the German goalkeeper out of the team, I know you have backed him but for me that's misplaced loyalty, he's dreadful.
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How can I be talking about you? You weren't even registered when Karius got dropped? i am one of the posters you are referring too who wanted the German goalkeeper out of the team, I know you have backed him but for me that's misplaced loyalty, he's dreadful. Why pick a scapegoat? Look at the defense, it's shambolic. Don't think he's done any worse than Mingolet to be honest.
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