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Originally Posted By WiseOne
KLOPP....OUT....


And so it begins.......

You just couldn't help yourself could you?

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By WiseOne
KLOPP....OUT....


And so it begins.......

You just couldn't help yourself could you?
ofcorse it begins...it begins because it's a never ending cycle for clubs like ours, a manager comes in, we don't win a trophy, he gets about three seasons, he's sacked...we start all over again and we go longer and longer without winning a trophy.
I think fans are partly to blame with stupid expectation levels as in trying to win Leagues like this seasons start and when we fall away they are disappointed, the league is a dead competition for clubs like ours which makes it all the more important to try and win a cup.

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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser

If Karius had made the error I would have questioned yet again why Klopp would have picked him. And yes I probably would have judged the error differently.


Thank you admitting your own double standards. As I said it's laughable.

Karius was dropped after making mistakes and poor performances, since then especially in the two Southampton games he was pretty good. Mignolet is now doing the same but for some reason you don't hold him accountable, why?

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Originally Posted By paul66
The whole team was absolutely [oops]. As bad as mingolet was the rest were as bad. As much as I don't want him in goal. We have far bigger problems than mingolet. Having to play Lucas or Klaven in defence for starters and Lovern is not to hot either. They are making mistakes every single game that lead to multiple goals being conceded in games


Yes they were, and I don't blame Mignolet for our inability to create chances and constant sideways passing. However when we are struggling against a team that are content for a point, the last thing you do is give them a goal, and that's exactly what Mignolet did yesterday.

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser

If Karius had made the error I would have questioned yet again why Klopp would have picked him. And yes I probably would have judged the error differently.


Thank you admitting your own double standards. As I said it's laughable.

Karius was dropped after making mistakes and poor performances, since then especially in the two Southampton games he was pretty good. Mignolet is now doing the same but for some reason you don't hold him accountable, why?


Mignolet fked up for their first goal, but Karius is no better, Wolves scored their first goal because he didn't come out.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions

Mignolet fked up for their first goal, but Karius is no better, Wolves scored their first goal because he didn't come out.


I've never said Karius is better, just holding both our goalkeepers to the same standards. Neither have been good enough this season.

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On current form we'll be 6th next week with Everton closing in.

There's no more debating Mignolet, he's a poor 'keeper and although he's not the only reason, I believe if we'd signed a WC 'keeper instead of cheap potential in Karius, we'd get top4. Before you ask, I don't know who that could've been..

A part of me can still make excuses for the squad/FSG.
We've got 3 great strikers and Origi, Ings and Sturridge on the bench. Origi's gone backwards, Ings is injured again.. and DS just hasn't played as he can.
The midfield is average but most had faith in Can so we've got Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum & Lallana, plus a couple of decent back-ups.
The biggest summer cock up was not going all out for someone like Hector. Yes we had Milner and bought Wijnaldum but should we had to choose between another midfielder and a LB?
Sakho's let us all down and Klaven's been poor - but that's what £5m CB's give you...

I have faith in Klopp if he's given funds. It'll be an interesting summer as despite what people say about him buying potential and developing players, he can't do that here and now he must know it. If he doesn't get the players he wants I think it'll be his last summer with us.

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser

If Karius had made the error I would have questioned yet again why Klopp would have picked him. And yes I probably would have judged the error differently.


Thank you admitting your own double standards. As I said it's laughable.

Karius was dropped after making mistakes and poor performances, since then especially in the two Southampton games he was pretty good. Mignolet is now doing the same but for some reason you don't hold him accountable, why?


Karius came in and he didn't look like a goalkeeper. Hes picked up since then but he is still struggling. Mignolet had made mistakes recently just like most of the players have dropped off.

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So are you saying all those players Klopp has bought are players he didn't want to sign himself, if the answer is no then who forced them on him and if the answer is yes then he has a poor judgement of players if he thinks there good enough. The only other reason I can think of is that FSG haven't given him money to buy the players he wanted and if that's the case surely Klopp should of discussed transfer funds before he took over much like Benitez did at Newcastle with Mike Ashley, if he still signed must of meant he was happy with the transfer fund so the blame lies firmly at Klopps feet.

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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser

If Karius had made the error I would have questioned yet again why Klopp would have picked him. And yes I probably would have judged the error differently.


Thank you admitting your own double standards. As I said it's laughable.

Karius was dropped after making mistakes and poor performances, since then especially in the two Southampton games he was pretty good. Mignolet is now doing the same but for some reason you don't hold him accountable, why?


Karius came in and he didn't look like a goalkeeper. Hes picked up since then but he is still struggling. Mignolet had made mistakes recently just like most of the players have dropped off.


So because other players are struggling for form Mignolet's mistakes are acceptable?

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