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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
I agree with the sentiments of the opening post regarding the OTT criticism of Karius. I do think Klopp took a gamble and perhaps erred when he put him in the team and I thought he had the opportunity to take him out of the firing line a couple of weeks back.

However, under the current circumstance I think it would be good for us, Klopp and the fans, to back Karius now. We can't have so called pundits picking teams and making decisions about players. Remember Neville's OTT criticism of David Luiz? In my view Carragher and the Neville brothers have been unprofessional in how they've voiced their opinions.

Whether Karius is better than Migs is no longer the point. In my opinion he hasn't been better so far, but we have to trust Klopp's judgement. He obviously must feel that Karius has more potential, is the better option going forward and therefore feels it's better to start giving him first team game time.


I agree, I've not been impressed by Karius so far, but he needs more time, I would like to see him behind a settled defence for about 6-8 games, that would be Milner / Lovren / Matip / Clyne, that's probably our best defence atm, not that I think Lovren is particularly good and I would prefer a specialist LB, but Milner has done well as cover.

Karius played for Mainz for 5 years (4 years in first team) so I am sure Klopp knew all about his ability and mentality as he would have seen allot of him in Germany and will have allot of info from Mainz being their ex-manager, so I am happy to leave it to Klopp.

Taking on the media and individuals is always risky, I remember Rafa with his list on Fergy, just wasn't good, but I think Klopp knows what he's upto and I do like a manager who stands up for his players, even if he does Boll*ck em in the background, that should never be public, I always liked Fergy for that.

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Originally Posted By chesterville
Karius and Mignolet lack courage. A great 'keeper bosses his penalty box, roaring at his defenders and intimidating the opposition with his strength, courage and agility. And this lifts the whole team.

Our two keepers are often timid and fragile.



very good point. Keeper needs to have presence/gravitas.


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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By chesterville
Karius and Mignolet lack courage. A great 'keeper bosses his penalty box, roaring at his defenders and intimidating the opposition with his strength, courage and agility. And this lifts the whole team.

Our two keepers are often timid and fragile.



very good point. Keeper needs to have presence/gravitas.


Wouldn't hurt for the defenders to have some too. Matip has been good but not sure he's that John Terry type that we could use.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Originally Posted By chesterville
Karius and Mignolet lack courage. A great 'keeper bosses his penalty box, roaring at his defenders and intimidating the opposition with his strength, courage and agility. And this lifts the whole team.

Our two keepers are often timid and fragile.



very good point. Keeper needs to have presence/gravitas.


Wouldn't hurt for the defenders to have some too. Matip has been good but not sure he's that John Terry type that we could use.


There aren't many JT types around, loathe him but a good player/leader, they are a dying bread, like defenders who can defend....

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I think we all agree that the back five has been a problem for a while.


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Originally Posted By ecnirp98

There aren't many JT types around, loathe him but a good player/leader, they are a dying bread, like defenders who can defend....


Our defence is crying out for a no nonsense Terry, Carragher, Vidic style defender.

Matip reminds me of Hyypia, he just needs a Carragher to partner him now.

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Great post.I agree with every word. Besides, what would dropping Karius and brining back Mignolet says? Lots of supporters thought he wasn't good enough. Why take a step backward? If he's not good enough then we need to move on.I see some comments about Klopp being stubborn, but if he thought Migs wasn't good enough there is no point bringing him in and dropping Karius.

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Mr G has been banging on about Howedes 8 times a week for 2years...Could he be on to something?


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Welcome back kp!

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Originally Posted By lumba
Middle my arse.


You'll have to buy me a drink first and maybe a movie if you're wanting your arse muddled.

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