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This season is Liverpool's only real chance of League success as you won't get another season when the big clubs City, United and Chelsea all have brand new managers at the same time and need time to settle, no Europe too, for me the one and only chance as them clubs will all be stronger and better next season...
Anything whatsoever to back this up with Marine Boy?Klopp says he is only just starting where you getting your info from? I think he just kept that post from the year Shergar took us to 2nd. This is our second one and only chance in the last few seasons. That's what I was thinking. Maybe we are the same person after all.
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Liverpool could move forward if Klopp brings a lot of success which is possible but only within the constraints of FSG we might improve from where we are today but not maximise our full potential that's the point settling for less let me put it like that With the significant addition of corporate seats, importance of TV money, our worldwide brand and Klopp, we will be at least in the top 4 consistently. If only the oil prices remained low, then both City and Chelsea will be behind. I am sure of this. I think the Business is trying to address and increase the the customer ticket situation don't know if you have heard about the L postcode ticketing scheme they are trying to introduce. There talking about trying to catch up with Everton in getting a foothold on the local market and they are adopting the same tactic as Everton by sending tickets around local schools they also talk about selling tickets to younger customers with L post codes before anyone else too, maybe they could extend the L post code to older fans too so that they could get a bit of the identity back to the business. I think they are working hard behind the scenes so time will tell if it's a good marketing strategy...
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Same shitte, different year. Gets fukking boring.
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Same shitte, different year. Gets fukking boring. nope honestly not me saying its the L post code scheme on the Liverpool site, seems a good idea but might be worth extending it...
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Same shitte, different year. Gets fukking boring. nope honestly not me saying its the L post code scheme on the Liverpool site, seems a good idea but might be worth extending it... VIP's assemble!!
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Liverpool could move forward if Klopp brings a lot of success which is possible but only within the constraints of FSG we might improve from where we are today but not maximise our full potential that's the point settling for less let me put it like that Yes I agree, Klopp is obviously a very good manager and will get the best out of whatever he has available, and that should see us challenging in this season without midweek competition. However imo he'll need a stronger squad and less problems in defence if we play in Europe next season. As for maximising our full potential, I agree we can't do that under FSG constraints, including their propensity for selling off their best performers. We're more likely to be consistent catch up strugglers than consummate top dogs, unfortunately. Like someone earlier mentioned I think the real test for a Club is when they are competing in Europe aswell as the League, Leicester have shown smaller clubs can reach the top without Europe so this needs to be our aim however I honestly believe if we ever did win the League we would struggle like Leicester have this season as we can't compete with the big boys and Europe too. I really don't think FSG will ever budget to win major trophies, if they manage success then they will take it all day but putting there hands in there pocket to get it is an entirely different matter. This season is Liverpool's only real chance of League success as you won't get another season when the big clubs City, United and Chelsea all have brand new managers at the same time and need time to settle, no Europe too, for me the one and only chance as them clubs will all be stronger and better next season... It's not only competing in Europe as the EPL is as big a brand with most games if not all being shown every week in Asia and Africa and a bit less in America. Yes, it is success that builds up the brand and that was my point, with more tv and corporate seats revenues + Klopp we will be competing to the highest level. The other thing is that fans tend to influence their kids to support their teams especially if there is some success, this is what I ended up doing with my 13 years old (despite not being that successful). Our available cash will be second to United only in the long run when oil dries up or prices stay subdued as now as our debt level is relatively low.
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Liverpool could move forward if Klopp brings a lot of success which is possible but only within the constraints of FSG we might improve from where we are today but not maximise our full potential that's the point settling for less let me put it like that Yes I agree, Klopp is obviously a very good manager and will get the best out of whatever he has available, and that should see us challenging in this season without midweek competition. However imo he'll need a stronger squad and less problems in defence if we play in Europe next season. As for maximising our full potential, I agree we can't do that under FSG constraints, including their propensity for selling off their best performers. We're more likely to be consistent catch up strugglers than consummate top dogs, unfortunately. We always sold our best players who wanted to leave, nothing new under FSG, the examples I remember are Keagan, Rush, Owen, Mc Manaman. And which constrains are you talking about, they we always at the club, in fact, our most expensive purchases were under FSG. We do not need to have a huge squad while we are out of Europe with top players warming the bench, look at Sturridge, do you think he is happy not playing regularly? Do you think we should have bought Pogba for the money which Manure paid? Klopp had money to spend but decided not to, he knows what he is doing. You seem to moan just for the sake of it.
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Same shitte, different year. Gets fukking boring. nope honestly not me saying its the L post code scheme on the Liverpool site, seems a good idea but might be worth extending it... I couldn't give a fukk about some L postcode scheme. I'm talking about you coming back to troll the forum for what, the 8th time now. Pretty fukking pathetic really.
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Liverpool could move forward if Klopp brings a lot of success which is possible but only within the constraints of FSG we might improve from where we are today but not maximise our full potential that's the point settling for less let me put it like that Yes I agree, Klopp is obviously a very good manager and will get the best out of whatever he has available, and that should see us challenging in this season without midweek competition. However imo he'll need a stronger squad and less problems in defence if we play in Europe next season. As for maximising our full potential, I agree we can't do that under FSG constraints, including their propensity for selling off their best performers. We're more likely to be consistent catch up strugglers than consummate top dogs, unfortunately. We always sold our best players who wanted to leave, nothing new under FSG, the examples I remember are Keagan, Rush, Owen, Mc Manaman. And which constrains are you talking about, they we always at the club, in fact, our most expensive purchases were under FSG. We do not need to have a huge squad while we are out of Europe with top players warming the bench, look at Sturridge, do you think he is happy not playing regularly? Do you think we should have bought Pogba for the money which Manure paid? Klopp had money to spend but decided not to, he knows what he is doing. You seem to moan just for the sake of it. yes we have a history of selling our best players like you mention so nothing new there, we have always been a selling club even during our most successful period. I think time will tell wether we should of bought Pogba for 90 million, if he helps United to 2 or 3 league titles and a champions League win it will be money well spent. I would say all this was said at the same time Real Madrid shelled out 47 million for Zidane and tha one worked so let just give Pogba a bit of time before totally writing him off, I agree with posters who say Klopp like to turn players into good ones rather than finished article ones..
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This season is Liverpool's only real chance of League success as you won't get another season when the big clubs City, United and Chelsea all have brand new managers at the same time and need time to settle, no Europe too, for me the one and only chance as them clubs will all be stronger and better next season...
Anything whatsoever to back this up with Marine Boy?Klopp says he is only just starting where you getting your info from? I think I have said before the best method on these things is to look at the way football has worked. When I first started watching the Clubs called the shots and players were lucky to play for there clubs, it's the other way around now with players calling the shots and Clubs lucky to employ players. There is no way Shanks, Paisley and Jock Stein etc would of put up with players dictating to clubs like the modern ones do today, This brings me on to my point players and managers are different now, players move clubs for the good of there careers and financial benefit and managers treat Clubs like that too. A manager and player will always monoevere his career to play or manage one of the super clubs if he is good enough managers who what I would call in the second tier with massive potential but not achieved real success yet like Diego Simeone, Klopp, Koeman and Pochettino look set for good things and if they continue to improve will aim for a super club like City, Chelsea, United, Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca but they will all have to move Clubs to achieve greatness. Similar with players, they want to end up at one of the super clubs too if they manage to keep improving and progressing, I think people who don't believe this is how football works is being quite nieve or won't admit it, there odd exceptions but far and few between especially when managers and players don't have any real connection or ties with the club... funny how I was saying about managers and players needing and wanting to play for the super clubs and sure enough Jamie Carragher is saying exactly the same thing in his column in the Mail this morning, He mentions Lukaku at Everton saying if he continues to score goals he will need to end up at a super club the same as what happens with our best players like Suarez and Alonso and probably courtino. Think it's harder for Liverpool customers to accept because 20 odd years ago we were top of the food chain and one of the super clubs the best players wanted to go to in fact I can remember the headlines and shock when one player turned us down, Charlie Nicholas he wanted the bright lights of London and earned the nickname champagne Charlie coz of it..
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