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I said he was Shyte on this thread and some "expert" took me to task for it, can't recall who the "expert" was nor do I care, but if he's knocking about perhaps he'd like to come on and defend his superior football knowledge now?

The influx of foreign players is not to blame for the poor standard of English footballers. The game in Europe has progressed as has the technical ability of the players due to the systems of player development in those countries.

The English FA needs to model the German, French and Spanish development systems and produce decent players.

At this point in time, reducing the number of foreign players would simply mean more average English players in the EPL and a much poorer standard.

the PL is definitely the most competitive in the world, dunno if that make it the best though. other leagues are 'better' in terms of individual players and entertainment and important stuff, like winning european trophies!

we need a change on the scale of spain/ germany, but more drastic. accept the next 10 years is written off to implment the changes properly and we might win somthing before i'm 40!

The Premier League is the most popular globally as it is exciting for the watchers, the big teams are not guaranteed wins most of the time, unlike Spain, Germany and Italy, where they are tactically and technically better than the PL, but games can feel more 'sterile' compared to the PL all action.

I watched the game last night and wondered would Big Sam win that game against Iceland with the same England squad playing his style of football, I think he would, but would we want England playing like that?

Last night, the England players caved in under pressure, like they have so many times before, the lack of a system and the basic passing broke down, we all know they can do this passing as they do it every week in the PL, they are not Inesta's, but they can pass the ball 5 metres and control it, so this is a mentality thing, not mid season breaks/coaching.

The Italians beat a much more technically gifted Spanish team yesterday, the Spanish players were better than the Italian players one on one, most of those Italian players would not get in the England team (some are in PL reserve teams), but Italy had confidence and a system they believed in, all knew what they had to do. Spain are far more technically gifted, but they have one style of play and Italian played a way they could not deal with, Spain had no alternative to deal with this.

any plan would have been better than no plan, and like I think shearer said, roy made it up as he went along. I don't even think roy knew what style of football he wanted, because even during the pre warm games I bleated on about how poor england were at passing in a narrow shape, no movement, not enough fluid passing. the amount of good chances we created against iceland was a joke. harry kane was always dropping deep, sometimes to the half way line, england have missed a big opportunity.

such a shame after a relatively easy qualification, and 2 solid games against the swiss.

Italy have been absolutely brilliant in this tournament so far and Conte looks to be a top manager. I think they have the best goalkeeper and defence in the competition and players like De Rossi can still boss a midfield. They may not have any attacking superstars but players like Bonucci and Chiellini are world class defenders but will never get the recognition that attackers do.

On another subject did anyone listen to the Roy Hodgson and Martin Glenn press conference earlier?

What an absolute disgrace it was! Hodgson saying he didn't want to be there as it is no longer his responsibility, Glenn saying he wasn't a football expert despite being on the 3 man panel who will determine England's next manager. (He's also Chief Executive of the Football Association)

The FA is run by suits with qualifications and no relevant football experience, no wonder they constantly get it wrong and we've been s*** for years! I cannot believe that Gareth Southgate is a serious contender for the job? Surely not.

Give it to shearer - can't do any worse than any other manager u'v had since 96.

I agree, Italy have been brilliant, they have very good defenders and play as a unit, which makes them the best defense, Buffon is tremendous to stay at the level he has maintained for 20 years. I think Italy will come unstuck against a strong team like Germany who will remain strong and pick them off, but they have been great to watch making the most of their team.

My point is that England were playing without a system, which made us so weak, this was caused by Roy Hodgson not having any settled system or plan and playing players constantly out of position (Rooney in midfield, Sturridge/Vardy on wing).

I agree, while the FA has idiots and committee's in charge we will never have a good England team, it will always be the easy option of an FA yes man like Hodgson, this has been going on since the days of Brian Clough when he was the outstanding manager of the day but would not bow down to the old farts at the FA.

I hope it isn't Southgate, he's another failed manager who took Middlesbrough down, he is working inside the FA now, so they will love that. There aren't many great candidates, I think Alan Pardew would be the best option. I always thought Glenn Hoddle was good and was sacked for non-football issues, another great FA decision, but he has not been a manager for a long time now,