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Welsh_Wizard #537026 27/06/16 05:11 PM
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I think they'll all be Klopp signings RS. He's done far too much in the game and is far too strong a character to be anyone's puppet.

The manager project failed for them as did the transfer committee and although I don't think much of them, they're not stupid.

Red_Scouser #537030 27/06/16 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
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Well yes a step down in league position but a big step up in expectation


Correct.

I'll say it again, this is the big difference and why smaller clubs best players struggle at bigger clubs where they are expected to win every single week. Remember playing well in a Southampton side that finishes 6th is a good season, is that acceptable for Liverpool? No it isn't!

Chris2402 #537032 27/06/16 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Chris2402
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Well yes a step down in league position but a big step up in expectation


Correct.

I'll say it again, this is the big difference and why smaller clubs best players struggle at bigger clubs where they are expected to win every single week. Remember playing well in a Southampton side that finishes 6th is a good season, is that acceptable for Liverpool? No it isn't!


It's not impossible to make the 'step up' though. If a player is good enough they'll make it at a big club regardless of where they're bought from.

Lets just give him a chance and not write it off before he's even passed his medical.

wilkij1975 #537033 27/06/16 06:10 PM
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this Mane stuff is really dissapointing.on the same day we agree a fee of £34m_£36m for him,man u agree a fee of £25M ish for Mihktiryian.something really isnt right here.why do we insist on paying way over the odds for average to decent players.why are we so unattractive to top player?
i take it this signals the end of us being linked with Gotze?
hopefully im wrong but i dont think we'll finish anywhere near the top 4 next season.i dont want the season to start.

Welsh_Wizard #537034 27/06/16 06:12 PM
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Tbf Gotze has looked like a chubby bag of shitt at the euros.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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I'm a big fan of Gotze, but it's true, he's looked [oops] at the Euros.

lumba #537036 27/06/16 06:17 PM
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Tbf Gotze has looked like a chubby bag of shitt at the euros.

yer right there but i would still take him at £20m over £36m mane.i dont think theres anyone who's very excited by the move.

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Originally Posted By Darcus
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How can you say Mane is not good enough? He's played well for Southampton and there's been no clear evidence to say he can or can't make the step up so it would be a calculated gamble as per every other transfer.

Klopp signed players from all over when he was at Dortmund and a lot of them didn't have proven track records when they joined. You need to have an open mind and if you don't have that then I would think that you won't be a big fan of Klopp's management.


Hahahaha, open mind? I suggest you take your own advice you Brendan Rodgers loving obsessive. I'm a massive fan of Klopp's management but I'm frustrated by our transfer policy.

Playing well for Southampton doesn't mean he can make the step up for Liverpool. And I've said he's a decent player, but in no way shape or form is he a £30million footballer!


Actually, it would be a step "down" as Southampton finished 2 places above us last season.

Gotta say, Mane at £30m is very underwhelming. On his day he can be good, no one can deny that, but we need players that are consistently good. I think he scored in 7 games last season (and got 5 or 6 assists?) so I don't really see how he will improve us much.
We've got more money now than ever before in our history thanks to the enormous amount of TV money coming in, so why are fannying about with players like Mane?? It doesn't make a lot of sense.


I don't quite know what the point is if you think that. considering we made 2 cup finals, I'm surprised you think liverpool is a step down from southampton purely on the basis of 3 points which separated them at the end of this campaign. or do you not think that, are you trying to give us any players perspective?

I don't know how consistent mane is (is it a reason to not sign him, whoever we sign they aren't going to be completely consistent?). A lot of it will of course depend on liverpool being consistently good, he's certainly had more consistency when he's not been played as centrally, where he is more likely to be indisciplined.

It would be a bit of an embarrassment should southampton finish above us next season. we expect to be challenging for top 4, southampton don't have a manager yet, and surely if they were going to finish in the top four they should have done it this season?

Welsh_Wizard #537088 27/06/16 09:55 PM
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Dunno why, but I'm just not getting excited about this.
Hopefully we'll all be delighted though in just 10 months time.

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Originally Posted By kernowred
this Mane stuff is really dissapointing.on the same day we agree a fee of £34m_£36m for him,man u agree a fee of £25M ish for Mihktiryian.something really isnt right here.why do we insist on paying way over the odds for average to decent players.why are we so unattractive to top player?
i take it this signals the end of us being linked with Gotze?
hopefully im wrong but i dont think we'll finish anywhere near the top 4 next season.i dont want the season to start.
his in his last year of his contract and made it clear he wont be signing a extension

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