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The other point I would like emp to consider is this. Once ISIS gained ground in the Middle East huge numbers of European Muslims born and raised in western societies numbering the many thousands went to join Isis in the bloodletting. Many of these played significant roles such as the infamous jihad John. Emp claims this is entirely due to American policy in the Middle East. Were this so you would naturally expect the counter voilence to be people in the Middle East attacking Americans. Yet Isis and Muslims from Europe are killing not the west but civilians in the Middle East. Western hostages were killed and this got much publicity but the vast majority of beheadings were done to Iraq and Syrian soldiers and civilians and much of this was done by muslin citizens of Britain America France Germany Belgium Australia. Can emp please explain ????????

I think I have tackled your lack of understanding on this issue on a number of occasions. We are responsible for our actions in creating and fueling ISIS, we can't tell ISIS to only hate us our have any control over whatever their insane evil manifesto is. This really is simple stuff

Sixties is right to be concerned like Britain Australia has an Islamic problem and I know Australians have been concerned over Indonesia for many years one mentioned it to me on holiday once a good 40 years ago. A few months ago a plot was foiled to behead a veteran soldier at an Anzac parade. The attacker was to be an 18 year old Muslim Australian but he had been groomed by a 14 year old British Muslim from Blackburn. It's crazy stuff and if you think this is fantasy stuff remember we have had a British soldier beheaded on the streets of London. Emp will no doubt say this is our policy in the Middle East although he won't answer why it's Muslim westerners doing these things not people from thr Middle East. I also seem to recall a plot was foiled to behead civilians in Australia. So I don't think sixties is wrong to be concerned who wouldn't be ?

There was one massive attack that lead to the Iraq war. Or was that the US government just so they could justify the war?

I seem to remember internationally supervised elections in Iraq and other Middle East countries or did I imagine that ?

I do believe they came out and admitted that the whole "weapons of mass destruction" story was rubbish. And let's not forget, the excuse to go into the war on Iraq and the line used to convince the public was "they have wmd's" so yes, made up by the west.

I am afraid that Is not an answer please answer the question which is a fundamental point

I was asking if the US government was responsible for flying the planes into the towers as some conspiracy theories suggest? I know the WMD stuff was bollox but I was asking this as emp suggested there was very little terrorist activity before the Iraq war.

So what was the motivation behind the attacks? What part of the wests foreign policy lead to that?