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You are serious ? You really think it has nothing to do with the middle east? wow
We are bombing and bombing and bombing ..thats all we ever do.. no plan for peace ever. If we had not have blocked the Iranian influence ISIS probably be gone already. The only way to solve this is for us to take a back seat in terms of violence and a front seat in terms of solving the syrian civil war..that might mean curbing saudi and Israeli ambitions so we sure as hell ain't going to do that.
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[quote=Stanley Park]And ninja it's already knocking on my door I live in an area under threat of Islamic terrorism ever day there have been lots of terror threats so far stopped by the security services and every time these days going to Manchester Trafford centre or the city centre people are looking over their shoulder yes it's not a full scale world war but hardly immune from it either most British cities are high risk but Manchester Birmingham London being the biggest are highest risk. [/quote
how would u like a 250mil islam state at your doorstep like it is in oz] You were saying?
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Ninja pretty sure the Muslim population right across Europe are mostly good people what I am I saying is the same as you but mostly good implies not all so you are admitting there is a problem.
There is an issue a big issue we can all see that put your hands over your eyes if that makes you feel better but it won't go away. I agree the situation is complex but doing nothing and hope it will all go away is not the answer.
Have you ever seen the British cities with large Muslim populations ? Just wonder if you understand what the concerns are. A guy has just been jailed for 40 years in America for planning to blow up the arndale centre in Manchester pretty much where we go shopping twice a month. It's only a matter of time before we are discussing an event over here yes I am admitting there is a problem, but I am not isolating only the Muslims. I don't see you advocating for anyone to bomb the crap out of Liverpool and Manchester though, and we all know there are some bad apples there too, who aren't muslim.
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Also, absolutely no one is saying "do nothing and hope it goes away". We are saying stop creating more of them by bombing them and making their job of convincing people to join easier. We share saying gyour methods have not worked, they have made things worse.
Let's try another route, economic measures, true diplomacy and real help. Not exploitation.
You seem to think that whoever doesn't want war wants to sit on their Butte with their hands crossed. That though isyou covering your eyes refusing to see and admit that there are other possible ways of intervening.
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You are serious ? You really think it has nothing to do with the middle east? wow
We are bombing and bombing and bombing ..thats all we ever do.. no plan for peace ever. If we had not have blocked the Iranian influence ISIS probably be gone already. The only way to solve this is for us to take a back seat in terms of violence and a front seat in terms of solving the syrian civil war..that might mean curbing saudi and Israeli ambitions so we sure as hell ain't going to do that. What has Denmark, India and Mali done in the middle east? I hope you answer this time. The day those Islamic states/republics will allow churches and temples in their countries, then you can come up with your theories. As muslims they actually believe that they are helping the non-muslims by doing whatever they can to convert them.
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how would u like a 250mil islam state at your doorstep like it is in oz]
You were saying? [/quote] It's OK, you don't need to apologize.
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You are serious ? You really think it has nothing to do with the middle east? wow
We are bombing and bombing and bombing ..thats all we ever do.. no plan for peace ever. If we had not have blocked the Iranian influence ISIS probably be gone already. The only way to solve this is for us to take a back seat in terms of violence and a front seat in terms of solving the syrian civil war..that might mean curbing saudi and Israeli ambitions so we sure as hell ain't going to do that. What has Denmark, India and Mali done in the middle east? I hope you answer this time. The day those Islamic states/republics will allow churches and temples in their countries, then you can come up with your theories. As muslims they actually believe that they are helping the non-muslims by doing whatever they can to convert them. unlike the Catholic pope.
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Nothing they are the victims of this evil Islamic Fundamentalism,as I have said many times before. So they can thank the west for creating and fueling Islamic Fundamentalism.
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P.S. India-Pakistan relations have been bad for a while, and we know that Pakistan was a getaway for Al-Qaeda.
Mali is not a muslim problem but an African problem. Why is no one up in arms about the genital mutilation of women in Ethiopia, a Catholic country?
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Simpletons can't get their heads around ISIS motivations and our role in creating them. Directly in Afghan and indirectly with Iraq War and drone strikes. People like this make the dystopian fantasy world of Orwell's 1984 all the more plausible
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