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Originally Posted By: lumba
How do you destroy an ideology with bombs?


Well you can't but remember Syria and Iraq are occupied the ground forces fighting them are Arabs and Kurds we are simply helping them but yes there is still a big ideological problem not least in western societies within the Islamic communities do I know how to solve that problem no. But the alternative is to do nothing and wait to die because they will capture our societies one day we will be fine but your grandkids no. Dealing with the situation in Iraq and Syria or at least trying is a start


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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: lumba
How do you destroy an ideology with bombs?


What else can we do? Putting the kettle on and inviting them around for a chat ain't going to work is it? If we leave them alone they'll continue to rape, murder and pillage where ever they manage to get to.


I have already stated the way we deal with ISIS and the middle east, we stay out of it and let Iran and Syria deal with it..Iran is the leading military power in that section of the middle east - the majority of the people there are shia. They coulda wiped out ISIS already but we refused their help, we insisted on letting the iraqi army attack ISIS and they got a hidding, Iranian generals are now more involved but we need to let them deal with altogether, it would be over in weeks.

Then to ensure that young Muslims don't feel the desperation that drives these insane groups we reverse our policies in the middle east because they are horrible.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Rich coming from someone that thinks Maggie Thatcher was fantastic. Eyes wide shut unless you are accusing muslims or Nelson Mandela of wrong doing. Donald Trump got nothing on you


I know you have lost when you mention Maggie thatcher what she has to do with the Paris attacks only you and your muddled brain know. Lord haw haw I appreciate you don't support Islamic state but to them people like you are useful idiots


Lost what? There is no intellectual argument with you Stan cause you have no clue about anything. It just like dealing with Daily Mail headlines, you don't know any detail about anything.

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re Iran sorting out Islamic state I have no problem with that but what's stopping them now ? They are strong allies with Russia and Russia did not ask our permission to bomb did they? The west has attacked from the air and held Islamic state back up to now without that they would probably occupy all of Iraq and Syria but where we go from here if Iran wants to get involved fine the only problem is territorial in the region and the Sunni shai issue but anything us better than Islamic state


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Right so in 1,000 years time muslims might be in the majority according to your ratio's which of course are calculated using todays data which might not be tomorrows data. Its pure nonsense. You really think Western minded people are going to submit to Ancient doctrines and Sharia Law? Like just forget the French Revolution , the Industrial Revolution, The Enlightenment we have to go back to post caveman times.Not going to happen ever

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I don't think emp the west always does everything right but nor do I think it does everything wrong either. Fundanentally though the wests motives are in the right place we are the place to live for a good life and freedom. No one drags us away and kills us for making these comments do they emp ? many of the countries you admire would do. But the solution for you is clear if you really hate the west so much then pack your bags and clear off. The fact you don't shows this is just posturing but that's your right in a free democracy which would not be the case if we're ruled some other way.
A good life and freedom built upon the riches plundered and stolen from others and with the man power of slaves. The fact it is the good life does not describe it's origins and fundementally, you have to look at why extremist organiyations are doing what they are. It's not ONLY because they are crazy. Extremism has it's roots and origins, we should take a look at those.


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I don't think emp the west always does everything right but nor do I think it does everything wrong either. Fundanentally though the wests motives are in the right place we are the place to live for a good life and freedom. No one drags us away and kills us for making these comments do they emp ? many of the countries you admire would do. But the solution for you is clear if you really hate the west so much then pack your bags and clear off. The fact you don't shows this is just posturing but that's your right in a free democracy which would not be the case if we're ruled some other way.
A good life and freedom built upon the riches plundered and stolen from others and with the man power of slaves. The fact it is the good life does not describe it's origins and fundementally, you have to look at why extremist organiyations are doing what they are. It's not ONLY because they are crazy. Extremism has it's roots and origins, we should take a look at those.


I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about but what happened on Friday and the many occasions previously and the attacks to come is not acceptable our very survival is at stake


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in Sweden by 2030 (just 14 years) the swedes are forecast to be a minority in their own country imagine that ! Within most of our lifetimes Sweden could well be an Islamic country don't listen to me check out the problems Sweden is facing it will take longer for countries like Britain France Germany but in 50 to 60 years it could happen


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
in Sweden by 2030 (just 14 years) the swedes are forecast to be a minority in their own country imagine that ! Within most of our lifetimes Sweden could well be an Islamic country don't listen to me check out the problems Sweden is facing it will take longer for countries like Britain France Germany but in 50 to 60 years it could happen


German police chief Heinrich Himmler stated: “A people of good race which has too few children has a one-way ticket to the grave.”


You lot are in good company.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
in Sweden by 2030 (just 14 years) the swedes are forecast to be a minority in their own country imagine that ! Within most of our lifetimes Sweden could well be an Islamic country don't listen to me check out the problems Sweden is facing it will take longer for countries like Britain France Germany but in 50 to 60 years it could happen


German police chief Heinrich Himmler stated: “A people of good race which has too few children has a one-way ticket to the grave.”


You lot are in good company.


Too few children for what ? Sweden is now the rape capital of the world and has riots do you regard this as a success ? I am pretty sure if Ireland was to be an Islamic country in 15 years you would be the first to complain


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