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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Abromovic is a complete nob and Maureen is nothing more than a rich mans Allardyce. The way he plays the game speaks volumes about that. All those attacking players yet he's scared to take on the top teams instead he just parks his chav bus and hopes for a goal.

Agree about our owners though.


Come on ! every team that wins the league deserves to. And we won many a title playing negative football grinding out results just like Chelsea


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
In his first stint at Chelsea, he took a team that finished second the year before to first with reasonably heavey investment. Maybe Ranieri would have too?

Inter had won the league 3 times in a row when he took over and he just continued that. IIRC it was around the time juve got dumped for match fixing too so they might have been light on competition? He won the ECL so maybe some credit for that even though it was the worst final I remember watching apart from when Chelsea won it.

Real, for me he should've done better if he's the 'special one'. One title in three isn't that good for Real and their spending power. yes they had Barca to contend with but he's the 'special one'!

And now chavs again where he failed miserably last year, spent well as they can do and looks like he'll win the title. Big deal with what he has at his disposal.

The only thing I give him credit for is the ECL win at Porto. But even then their semi against Utd was one of the worst displays of cynical football I've ever seen!


You condemn Maureen as you list his four league title and two CL triumphs in the same post.

Football and football fans are mad.


You think that's odd?? Yesterday, some goon was on here saying that Benitez was a "terrible manager", in spite of everything he has won (including a european trophy for Chelsea - something that Mourinho has failed at every year).

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Like I said, it's just my opinion of him and what he's achieved and how I see it. I'm sorry I'm not a Maureen worshipper.


No, but you are a big fan of BR and he has won bugger all.



Where have I said I'm a big fan of Rodgers??

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Like I said, it's just my opinion of him and what he's achieved and how I see it. I'm sorry I'm not a Maureen worshipper.


No, but you are a big fan of BR and he has won bugger all.



Where have I said I'm a big fan of Rodgers??


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Like I said, it's just my opinion of him and what he's achieved and how I see it. I'm sorry I'm not a Maureen worshipper.


No, but you are a big fan of BR and he has won bugger all.



Where have I said I'm a big fan of Rodgers??


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I don't think you're even that sharp!

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Credit where due but this side relies far too heavily on Eden Hazard. No real game winners in their squad outside of him and it really shows just how poor the English league now is. A shame really to see all the top players just wanting to be in Spain.

Don't think it'll take anyone too much to catch these really. They aren't all that.


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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
In his first stint at Chelsea, he took a team that finished second the year before to first with reasonably heavey investment. Maybe Ranieri would have too?


Again this is a massive hypothetical, let's go on what actually happened, many managers have had tonnes of money and failed to win anything. Mou did it straight away in a highly competitive league. Fantastic achievement that no one can take anything away from.

Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Inter had won the league 3 times in a row when he took over and he just continued that. IIRC it was around the time juve got dumped for match fixing too so they might have been light on competition? He won the ECL so maybe some credit for that even though it was the worst final I remember watching apart from when Chelsea won it.


Yes it was a terrible game for a neutral but MAYBE he deserves credit for winning a champions league???? Are you kidding me? He deserves incredible credit, how many great teams and managers have failed to do that playing whatever kind of football you want. And he broke a record here being the first Italian team EVER (think how many great Italian club sides there have been in the past) to win the treble.

Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Real, for me he should've done better if he's the 'special one'. One title in three isn't that good for Real and their spending power. yes they had Barca to contend with but he's the 'special one'!


Well the 'special one' won a title in record breaking style with a record points tally ending a period of Barca supremacy over them and becoming one of very few managers to win all 3 major football leagues. How many great Barca and Real sides have their been (Barca was one of them at the time) and Mou won with a record points tally unequalled by any of them. That's pretty 'special'.

Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
And now chavs again where he failed miserably last year, spent well as they can do and looks like he'll win the title. Big deal with what he has at his disposal.


Many teams spend far more and don't win titles under plenty of managers. Chelsea didn't even spend THAT much and lit the league up for half a season and won the title at a canter. Now this I agree isn't his finest year but again it's a steady achievement.

Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
The only thing I give him credit for is the ECL win at Porto. But even then their semi against Utd was one of the worst displays of cynical football I've ever seen!


Well this says it all mate, you're entitled to your opinion and everything but the whole post is about your unexplainable personal feelings as opposed to the cold hard facts of what he has achieved.


Not everybody would understand your post and agree with it, funny enough. He is not called the special one for nothing and your posts shows why actually.

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Originally Posted By: evans09
Credit where due but this side relies far too heavily on Eden Hazard. No real game winners in their squad outside of him and it really shows just how poor the English league now is. A shame really to see all the top players just wanting to be in Spain.

Don't think it'll take anyone too much to catch these really. They aren't all that.


Fabregas, Diego Costa, Matic are all top players and among the best in the league and Europe in the respective positions.

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Originally Posted By: evans09
Credit where due but this side relies far too heavily on Eden Hazard. No real game winners in their squad outside of him and it really shows just how poor the English league now is. A shame really to see all the top players just wanting to be in Spain.

Don't think it'll take anyone too much to catch these really. They aren't all that.


You are wrong, without Costa they wouldn't have won the league, they didn't have a proper striker last season and came 3rd. I don't think that they won the league because of one particular player as Fabregas, Costa, Courtois, Matic, Terry played a major role. It's really amazing what Terry did this season, probably the best defender in the league and he was not even on the bench under Rafa. Only positive in all this is that United will not win the league.

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