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Originally Posted By: (E)SSO
The attitudes on here are exactly the same as those on another website back in 2005 at half time in Istanbul.
There is always hope. These signings are terrific players. Go back to the Spurs game when people were describing Moreno as a proper player and Lovren being what we were missing.

Personally that day we played against a team only moderately better than when we thumped them 5-0 last season without us playing particularly well on this occasion.

Yet so many were so delighted at the clean sheet and proclaiming the new dawn. Balotelli did OK up top with Sturridge and Moreno Manquillo Lovren and Sakho didn't give Spurs a sniff.



You know what? I actually continued watching Istanbul after the first half disaster with a number of my LFC fan mates switching the tv off and going to bed as it was close to midnight. However, miracles like Istanbul 2nd half happen very rarely but there is no shame in hoping for the best.

I also don't think that the team is that bad, including Balotelli, however, I do think Rodgers is lost and cannot get the best out of players at his disposal.

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Originally Posted By: (E)SSO
The attitudes on here are exactly the same as those on another website back in 2005 at half time in Istanbul.
There is always hope. These signings are terrific players. Go back to the Spurs game when people were describing Moreno as a proper player and Lovren being what we were missing.

Personally that day we played against a team only moderately better than when we thumped them 5-0 last season without us playing particularly well on this occasion.

Yet so many were so delighted at the clean sheet and proclaiming the new dawn. Balotelli did OK up top with Sturridge and Moreno Manquillo Lovren and Sakho didn't give Spurs a sniff.



You know what? I actually continued watching Istanbul after the first half disaster with a number of my LFC fan mates switching the tv off and going to bed as it was close to midnight. However, miracles like Istanbul 2nd half happen very rarely but there is no shame in hoping for the best.

I also don't think that the team is that bad, including Balotelli, however, I do think Rodgers is lost and cannot get the best out of players at his disposal.


I agree Vish.
Perhaps there is a bit of a hangover from last season and a good number of our squad was also involved in a poor World Cup campaign.
But he has no more become a bad manager than Koeman has become a world beater in 11 league games.
I do believe that you play 2 up top as much as you can plus Sterling in an attacking role. This was the format that was so successful last season that he seems to have abandoned.
I think he has lost a bit of confidence in himself and that he needs to extend his managerial staff to spread his workload.

Sometimes it is good to take it all on yourself but maybe he does need a specialist defensive coach or a stronger personality alongside him on the bench.

His experiences at Liverpool so far have been of relentless progress and when that progress stops or in this case has turned into regression then that is often what is hard to deal with.

It is as important to know why you succeed and learn from that experience as it is to learn from your failures and mistakes. At the moment he seems to have forgotten how he achieved what he did last season.

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Some players excited me but mario was never going to fit

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BR got lucky with having Luis Suarez in the side. Scoring and making 70% of our goals as well as drawing 3 players to him every time he got the ball so our average players could do "amazing" things.

we have had a succession of poor, average, ok, and second-tier successful managers over the last 20 years.

I dont rate Raffa or Houllier as successful compared to our REAL managers Shankley or Paisley.

they were ok pretenders, but their teams did not terrorize or dominate Europe.

The poor decisions in player buying are mirrored in picking the right manager.

We need a Real ballsy thoroughbred like Guus Hiddink or similar.

God i am tired of this....................
How i long to see the storming running and power play we know was Liverpool. Its what Bayern have copied and its beautiful.

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He needs to work on being more flexible and having a plan B

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Originally Posted By: chesterville
BR got lucky with having Luis Suarez in the side. Scoring and making 70% of our goals as well as drawing 3 players to him every time he got the ball so our average players could do "amazing" things.

we have had a succession of poor, average, ok, and second-tier successful managers over the last 20 years.

I dont rate Raffa or Houllier as successful compared to our REAL managers Shankley or Paisley.

they were ok pretenders, but their teams did not terrorize or dominate Europe.

The poor decisions in player buying are mirrored in picking the right manager.

We need a Real ballsy thoroughbred like Guus Hiddink or similar.

God i am tired of this....................
How i long to see the storming running and power play we know was Liverpool. Its what Bayern have copied and its beautiful.




Rafa's team never dominated europe? Were you under a rock? We were one of the top european teams under him and every one feared playing us. We always made QF, SM and finals under him. He failed to win the league but questioning his european exploits is stupid.


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I think he is tactically much better than BR and that is without question.

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Mate I was not under a rock during Raffa's reign, i was shaking my head and cringing at the [oops] poor negative play he purveyed, and even then longing for a return to the flowing play THAT BAYERN NOW USE WITH SIMILAR SUCCESS. Did you read that bit, ...mate? I reckon you may be correct that some teams did not enjoy playing against liverpool during a period of two years, because it was so hell-isly boring.

But currently I am under a rock as the club needs a real man to manage this team of misfits.

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Originally Posted By: MyKneeGrows

The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run?


I call bullsh!t on your 'creaming themselves'. The signings we made in the summer were underwhelming at best, the only one I was happy with was Lovren but he's turned out to be [oops] as well, although as said before, most likely down to Brendan Rodgers.


Yawn [/quote]

Says it all about the validity and strength of your 'creaming' argument.

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I do find odd/funny when people use 'everyone was saying' to bolster their argument.

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