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I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.
We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.
Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.
Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.
Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.
They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.
+1 Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around. I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely? Sadly not. The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run? I call bullsh!t on your 'creaming themselves'. The signings we made in the summer were underwhelming at best, the only one I was happy with was Lovren but he's turned out to be [oops] as well, although as said before, most likely down to Brendan Rodgers.
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I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.
We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.
Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.
Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.
Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.
They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.
+1 Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around. I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely? Sadly not. The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run? Whilst there was more dissatisfaction on here than you seem to think, this small pool of one forum is irrelevant. Many many people were very unhappy with our shoddy transfer business, many opposition fans were laughing at us, many half-decent football journalists predicted this downfall based on our signings. So lets not get it twisted here, it is not a massive shock this mediocre players are not performing to a top 4 level, on the contrary, it should have been quite expected, which is why the summer (and the 2 years before it) is so unforgivable. Mistakes I can handle, players like Lovren did seem a good choice that hasn't panned out thus far, that's not so bad, but that's the minority of over 200 million spent in the past few windows. Unforgivable.
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I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.
We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.
Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.
Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.
Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.
They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.
+1 Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around. I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely? Sadly not. The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run? I didn't even get a semi.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.
We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.
Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.
Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.
Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.
They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.
+1 Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around. I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely? Sadly not. The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run? I didn't even get a semi. I barely mustered a lacklustre chub
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I know but our net was low so I think we can and it absolutely needs to be done we were like a school boy team against Chelsea F ucking bollox that is and has to be addressed Our net was not low, it was the 3rd highest behind United and Arsenal and second highest in gross behind only United despite not being in the CL for a number of years. As you know we are being investigated under FFP so couldn't spend much more.
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Whether people are using hindsight or not is irrelevant.
Our summer signings have been brutal.
Not one of them has been a success and I have no idea how Lovren and Balotelli are keeping their places in the starting line up.
As another poster said on another thread "the man who lead us to a CL Place last season is now playing at Barcelona in Spain.
This is now BR's team and it is only now that we will see if he is up to the challenge or not.
Practically every club in the Premier League is bedding players in and to use that as an excuse is hardly acceptable.
We have gone backwards and we may not have reached rock bottom yet.
Rodgers needs to step up to the plate and show his worth, if he doesn't then he will meet the same fate as every other unsuccessful mananger in soccer.
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I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.
We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.
Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.
Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.
Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.
They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.
+1 Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around. I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely? Sadly not. The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run? I call bullsh!t on your 'creaming themselves'. The signings we made in the summer were underwhelming at best, the only one I was happy with was Lovren but he's turned out to be [oops] as well, although as said before, most likely down to Brendan Rodgers. Yawn
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The attitudes on here are exactly the same as those on another website back in 2005 at half time in Istanbul.
There is always hope. These signings are terrific players. Go back to the Spurs game when people were describing Moreno as a proper player and Lovren being what we were missing.
Personally that day we played against a team only moderately better than when we thumped them 5-0 last season without us playing particularly well on this occasion.
Yet so many were so delighted at the clean sheet and proclaiming the new dawn. Balotelli did OK up top with Sturridge and Moreno Manquillo Lovren and Sakho didn't give Spurs a sniff.
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I think he is in the meantime, I may change my mind though, things have to improve and fast for everyones sake. I also don't believe there is a better manager out there on the market atm so bringing another hopeful one aint going to change a thing with the rotten system in place.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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