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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred


If you were selling vish trainers made in a small workshop and demand was so high you couldn't keep up with it as you are ? would you not get a bigger workshop to meet demand now and with enough scope to extend the workshop if demand kept growing to meet that demand in the future ? Yes or no ?


We are increasing the capacity by 30%, so what the hell are you talking about? I am dead sure this is based on demand and when the demand is more a solution will be found as they did unlike all the other owners we've had over the last 25 years. If the demand for the trainers at a given price is 30% more, doing a factory for 60% more capacity will make the business go bust. I hope you understand this as I have used the simplest of examples but usually this exercise is done in a more structured way in a business plan which includes discounted cash flows, sensitivity analysis which is based on assumptions which includes demographics, substitutes etc. LFC is not a small workshop but a huge enterprise.

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It is a huge enterprise but unfortunately with a limiting factor

FSG

They simply do not have the clout you hear vish talking about sensitivity analysis what utter tripe you would perform sensitivity analysis when marketing a new club shirt stadiums are long term strategic yes the sums come into it but very broadly and what matters is long term planning and vision which we seem to be in short supply of


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
It is a huge enterprise but unfortunately with a limiting factor

FSG

They simply do not have the clout you hear vish talking about sensitivity analysis what utter tripe you would perform sensitivity analysis when marketing a new club shirt stadiums are long term strategic yes the sums come into it but very broadly and what matters is long term planning and vision which we seem to be in short supply of


Total BS coming from the mouth of a so called accountant, in every proper busines plan one of the things you do is a sensitivity analysis or scenario planning if ever you have heard of this. Companies like Shell who have to plan over very long periods are masters of scenario planning. You are completely deluded. Now I am starting to understand why a chartered accountant cannot pay a season ticket.

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Of course of I have heard of it but it's a short term tactical thing and by the way I have worked for shell by Manchester airport internal audit Fairly typical of you vish no arguments and you launch into personal attacks and you seem obsessed with my earnings. Funny enough I see you on this site every minute of every day so your job must have plenty free time.

Some things need detailed analysis the further you look into the future the less value this has so if FSG are performing detailed calculations on 30 years hence they are idiots.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Of course of I have heard of it but it's a short term tactical thing and by the way I have worked for shell by Manchester airport internal audit Fairly typical of you vish no arguments and you launch into personal attacks and you seem obsessed with my earnings. Funny enough I see you on this site every minute of every day so your job must have plenty free time.

Some things need detailed analysis the further you look into the future the less value this has so if FSG are performing detailed calculations on 30 years hence they are idiots.


I can afford to post 24x7 so what? Have you ever heard of working smarter not longer? By the way, just check who the biggest poster is on the right of the screen.

In your internal audit you probably haven't come across the scenario planning which Shell does over very long periods. How I would love to be as idiot as FSG owners who are billionaires with the clever guy having problems to pay a season ticket.

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I never said FSG were not clever vish they are very clever too clever for some on here. If I was John Henry I would be doing what he is doing which is getting the maximum payback in the shortest time using this great club (sorry brand) as a short term investment. The club will be left forever limited when he leaves and we will be behind our rivals for all time but he will be happy and I presume so will you.


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In terms of my post count I have been on this site for well over 10 years vish and it was much better when I joined in terms of the quality of the posters I don't include you in that by the way you are a good poster although I disagree with your stance on the stadium. But some of the posters we have (without naming names) are juvenile to say the least and the post traffic is well down on what it used to be when I first joined


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I never said FSG were not clever vish they are very clever too clever for some on here. If I was John Henry I would be doing what he is doing which is getting the maximum payback in the shortest time using this great club (sorry brand) as a short term investment. The club will be left forever limited when he leaves and we will be behind our rivals for all time but he will be happy and I presume so will you.


We have just spent more than 115m and around 50m net, I don't remember when we last did that if ever, we are in the process of increasing our ground capacity by 30% and you are still unsatisfied, especially for somebody who doesn't want to spend a 1000 quids a year for something he loves. So give me a brake.

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I never said FSG were not clever vish they are very clever too clever for some on here. If I was John Henry I would be doing what he is doing which is getting the maximum payback in the shortest time using this great club (sorry brand) as a short term investment. The club will be left forever limited when he leaves and we will be behind our rivals for all time but he will be happy and I presume so will you.


We have just spent more than 115m and around 50m net, I don't remember when we last did that if ever, we are in the process of increasing our ground capacity by 30% and you are still unsatisfied, especially for somebody who doesn't want to spend a 1000 quids a year for something he loves. So give me a brake.


What's up with your brake ? I would get that fixed you are endangering others lives as well as your own


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I never said FSG were not clever vish they are very clever too clever for some on here. If I was John Henry I would be doing what he is doing which is getting the maximum payback in the shortest time using this great club (sorry brand) as a short term investment. The club will be left forever limited when he leaves and we will be behind our rivals for all time but he will be happy and I presume so will you.


We have just spent more than 115m and around 50m net, I don't remember when we last did that if ever, we are in the process of increasing our ground capacity by 30% and you are still unsatisfied, especially for somebody who doesn't want to spend a 1000 quids a year for something he loves. So give me a brake.


What's up with your brake ? I would get that fixed you are endangering others lives as well as your own


All because of your negative thoughts

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