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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So to compare us to stoke or Sunderland is a pretty poor comparison

I'm still waiting for an answer as to where I insulted you. It seemed to stem from the fact that I pointed out to you that as an accountant you'd understand inflation rates. That somehow has become an insult


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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So to compare us to stoke or Sunderland is a pretty poor comparison

I'm still waiting for an answer as to where I insulted you. It seemed to stem from the fact that I pointed out to you that as an accountant you'd understand inflation rates. That somehow has become an insult


I think you pointed out I was incredibly biased due to my disagreeing with you. Not the greatest insult in the world but demonstrating your inability to counter what I am saying which is we are cutting our cloth to suit john Henry's willingness to invest. Ok all clubs suffer that limitation even city but we are one if the biggest clubs in the world and we are being starved of investment, the plans for the ground are a disgrace and for me personally it will be great as I keep the great seats we have but I am thinking of the bigger picture


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish what you really mean is we should not spend beyond John Henry's means which is the point we are making.

He is a speculator who bought the club on the cheap (or so he thought) now he is finding out running a top prem club is harder than he thought so we have to cut our cloth to suit the pocket of John Henry

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It's not about his means but the means of the club. John Henry's has always said we will stay within our means, there is no one else who wants to be more generous, unless you have some more info. When LFC was on the market, there were not a lot of suitors, isn't it?

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So to compare us to stoke or Sunderland is a pretty poor comparison

I'm still waiting for an answer as to where I insulted you. It seemed to stem from the fact that I pointed out to you that as an accountant you'd understand inflation rates. That somehow has become an insult


I think you pointed out I was incredibly biased due to my disagreeing with you. Not the greatest insult in the world but demonstrating your inability to counter what I am saying which is we are cutting our cloth to suit john Henry's willingness to invest. Ok all clubs suffer that limitation even city but we are one if the biggest clubs in the world and we are being starved of investment, the plans for the ground are a disgrace and for me personally it will be great as I keep the great seats we have but I am thinking of the bigger picture


I have repeatedly countered your arguments and stated facts particularly with reference to commercial improvements. You have blindly refuted these and generally just ignored any of the posts where facts are used which is why I described you as biased

You're first accusation of me insulting you came after I said you were an accountant and has continued with most of your responses to me (although you haven't responded to a large number which factually counter your argument)

It is not john Henry. He has maintained from the first day they took over Liverpool that we would be a self sustaining club. Consisting we routinely rank in the top 15 revenue generating clubs in the world and should be back in the top 10 after this season, that combined with a reduction in wage/turnover ratio should leave us plenty of money to compete which it has as we have the 3rd highest net spend since they took over

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The problem with the argument about us being a self sustaining club is we are not on a level playing field with our rivals we are 25 years behind them. Our ground is a landlocked rust bucket within hundreds of tight terraced streets. Old Trafford is twice our capacity but on a huge concourse Manchester city even more potential. Even Everton are looking at new build. Yet we build in this landlocked position overlaying an old out outdated design. We need owners who can bridge that gap it's no point in self sustaining when you are 15 paces behind on the start line.


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Where are these new owners then Stan?

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So Stoke and Sunderland have 60000 stadiums?

They don’t Maxi, and neither do we, nor will we ever have with FSG. Glad to see you’re not an accountant Maxi, if you were you’d know that sixty thousand into fifty eight thousand doesn’t go! Back to school for you my lad!

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So Stoke and Sunderland have 60000 stadiums?

They don’t Maxi, and neither do we, nor will we ever have with FSG. Glad to see you’re not an accountant Maxi, if you were you’d know that sixty thousand into fifty eight thousand doesn’t go! Back to school for you my lad!


Whatever way you want to spin it, comparing us to stoke or Sunderland is a ridiculous comparison and reminiscent of coolflames.

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Ah the cool flames jibe again


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What was cool flames most common comparison Stanley? He continuously compared us to Sunderland. I haven't once said you are like cool flames because youre opinion of the stadium issue is your own and you're welcome to it but you are yet to compare us to midtable teams as far as I know so don't try to get on your little high horse and claim insults

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