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Guys. We get it. He hurt you and made you cry. As someone else said he is an employee who moved to further his career. That's what professional footballers do. That's what Suarez is going to do as soon as he can . Torres has done what he wanted to do and will always consider his career a success. Lots of medals, trophies and riches. The fact that you despise him is not going to keep him awake at night.

Not true imo- consistently being injured hampered his performances, and probably his confidence meaning when he did come back, he wasn't the same player.

I agree he might still be able to recapture some form, but it won't be anything compared to 2007-2009.

The confidence issue is a valid argument (although a good manager should be able to do something about that), but I'm not aware of any injuries he has had that have effected his physical attributes permanently.

In his final season with us, when he was supposedly really poor, he still scored 9 goals in 22 games. What happened between him leaving us and joining chelsea that meant he would struggle to find the net on a regular basis?

Why don't you ask what is going around in his head. Plus unless you are an undercover member of the Liverpool or chelsea staff how do you know what his physical condition is/was.

Who shall I ask??

And you're right, I don't know what his physical condition is, hence my line of questioning. You would think that a club with Chelsea's financial resources would investigate the mental and physical condition of a £50m investment and replace him if if all was not correct.

Replace him. He is not a car. No they will continue with him because no one will take him off their hands. I'm sure he wants to stay for the chance to play in Europe and try to get to the world cup. As I say he has so many things to strive for. As long as he stays on the right side of maureen he will do ok. but never as well as when he was in our team.

Come off it, rich clubs replace players willy nilly.

So far off the mark there, ridiculous assumption. Ancelotti, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, del Bosque....none of them are good managers then? Sure it might be part a manager's job to motivate etc, but confidence will come through good performances and goals, which comes through hard work and perseverance, which Torres seems to have lost..




He was constantly injured throughout 2008, 2009 and 2010, and came back from the World Cup injured...don't know how you can't remember any of that?

It doesn't have to be a serious injury to affect a player. Being injured means he won't train physically or mentally, so his ability/ quality will deteriorate, that's a fact. Look at Lucas- took him ages to regain any sense of form, same with Ramsey, Wilshere etc. Long term (either 1 bad injury or several less significant injuries) injuries will harm a players ability, you can't argue against that.

I thought Benitez at chelski would've fixed him. Maybe he never got a partner up front like sg. They were ridiculously good together

They were fabulous. That team should have won the league.