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Agree as always Jj, only have to look at the likes of Torres, Shevchenko, Carrol, Kaka etc, all these were going to be or already were "the next big thing" until there new clubs paid far to much for them and boom all of them turned out useless.

Not one of those players is 'useless'. The thing they have in common is that they have not been scouted properly by the buying club, or been utilised correctly by the club at which they 'failed'.

Thats what i meant but was to lazy to go in depth, wrong signings at wrong time for the wrong money each player.

Indeed, but what about RVP, C.Ronaldo, Rooney, Aguero, Kolo Toure, Robben, Silva, Mata, Hazard even Torres when he came to us to name a few. I think you will find more players with top reputation who performed than not, which would confirm that the risk is lower than with an unproven player. However, if you do not have the means, you need to try something else, I can only hope it works.

Fair point, but think thats the point Jj was making that it works both ways really, you have players who cost a huge amount who turned out to be the wrong signings for that particular club then you have the opposite cheap signings relatively unknown who go to a certain club and turn out to be a revelation. 2 way street

And of course you have players who it didn't matter what they cost be it cheap or expensive and they turned out useless to, every signing has potential positives and negatives that we can only suss out once they kick a ball

Rooney has been mixed and inconsistent. Toure has not played regularly for over a year. Robben gets injured all the time, and rarely manages 40 games a season. Silva went through a mixed spell early this season. Mata was good this season and still got dropped. Hazard hasn't hit the ground running and under-performed compared to Mata, who played less. They're all talented players. To say they've all been a success or less of a risk is just plainly not true.

Well after reading all your posts guys, here is my reply.

Let me start by saying that some on here have forgotten that we had an oppurtunity to go for the best players, but KK screwed that up. FSG gave him and Comolli the funds, excessive funds, and they wasted them. So you canot say it is FSG's fault that we are looking for younger cheaper talent. It isn't. If you gave someone a 100 mil to buy you a yacht and they came back with a canoe, you'd be pretty skeptical about giving anyone a 100 mil again wouldn't you?

Secondly, Spice boys, i dont know who your supposed friends in Spain are, but either they dont watch football or they know nothing about it. Everyone, absolutely everyone from Spain that I have spoken to says that Aspas is a fantastic buy for LFC and a very very exciting young player. They even said they were surprised we got him for such a low fee.

Also, whilst we are buying cheaer younger players with lots of talent, we are still willing to spend big bucks on the likes of Mkhitaryan, who whatever some might say, is a proven quality player. So once again, FSG are providing the funds.

Last but not least, whilst Hyppia was captainof a CL team at the time, at the moment when he signed for us, I doubt 1 out of 100 could tell you who he was, what position he played in or which club. So he was generally an unknown.

What we are doing today is signing that type of player, good, quality players, who arent classed as world class yet, purely because they are not playing for your REal's or Man utd's...and our fans seem to have a problem with this. It's beyond all logic in my eyes.

Look at how many expensive signings, and expensive failures here have been in the PL. Surely, its better to take a heaper risk than to sign Hendo and Downing for 40 mil...

Good post Marko, just about closes out this thread imo

Sorry I meant Yahya Toure and if they haven't been successes, I don't know who has. All players good and bad will be having blips every now and then, even Michu the great revelation at the start of the season had a difficult second half. If you really think that the risk is the same in buying a proven and unproven player, all the teams buying expensive are just crazy, except that this is how Chelsea, City, PSG, Barca, Real, Bayern and even United have been winning trophies and will keep doing it.