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That's not necessarily true, we've failed to challenge for a top four spot this season because we failed to win in games we've dominated. The teams that make the top four usually win the games they've dominated (and of course the odd ones they haven't) - that's the difference.

Since 2008 (I couldn't be bothered to look further back) finishing fourth has required around 70 points (give or take one or two points), that simply hasn't changed - other teams will improve but that number remains unchanged. If we needed to factor in every other teams improvements, nobody would EVER break into the top four and we've already seen that in reality teams can and do.

If we manage to invest smartly and improve the squad as we did in January, we could arguably win the games we've failed to, of course that applies to everyone else but we know that simply won't happen every year - if it did, we would have never fallen out of the top four. It really is that simple.

the difference is at the start of every season the majority of fans hope to see there team do well in the cup at least or even better a chance of winning one, under Rodgers we have zero chance because the man sees them as a hindrance in his quest to finish 7th, while he is at the club and implementing this cup policy Liverpool Football Club will never play at Wembley again and unfortunately this is the bottom line. I know all about there being no money in the domestic cups but I am talking purely on a fan point of view who wants to see his team maybe win a cup and bring back a form of glory, I know it's not a league or champions league but unfortunately now for us beggars can't be choosers and a cup would be a great achievement for a club like ours now, look at the lift and feel good factor we got winning one last season.

Here we go, more unfounded doom and gloom. Yes we went out of the cups this season but that doesn't mean Brendan Rodgers is incapable of altering his policy on domestic cups. Claiming that whilst he's the manager we'll never make it to Wembley is just nonsensical. Remember that we're not playing European football next season so we'll probably take the cups much more seriously next time around.

alrite answer me this then regarding Brendan Rodgers policy, he fields weak teams in cups in order to get knocked out which will leave him to concentrate on finishing 7th in the league, tell me why he can't play his full hit and still finish in the top 7 at the end of the season, why is he resting players in order to keep them fresh if we have had nothing to play for from January onwards, what's he holding them back for.

yes, look at what it did for us. we scraped a narrow victory against wales's 2nd best team. it lifted us so much that we went on an abysmal run of results until the end of the season when our director of football, backroom staff and management all got sacked!

Look no offense mate but if you're really incapable of answering that question yourself, I'm not really interested in getting into discussing it with you. I've got far too much uni work to do to waste my time explaining the glaringly obvious to you.

yes but Dalglish was sacked because of Suarez and although the team played poorly after winning that cup, all the fans were still happy which afterall is all were really bothered about because we don't earn any money from the club.

I had no feel good factor winning the carling cup it was an embarrassment how much a big play was made of it. What next the zenith data systems cup ?

Is that still around ?

stanley I will ask u the same question again in another 5 or 6 seasons of no cups and continued top 7 and 8 finishes then tell me u won't be happy with a league cup win.

I probably would cool but let's hope we don't fall that far.