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We now have to win Monday cause Swansea is winning and will be 1 point above us.

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Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
We don't have to worry about Newcastle, they're the 15th best team in the league.
Thank god Bale's probably going in the summer.
Cant that be said about us with Suarez going, wont that cancel each other out the fact Bale may leave...

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Suarez isn't leaving my friend didn't you hear him when he said a few days ago he wants a new contract in the summer as his family and kid is very happy here, he wants the contract for more money so as he can stay without having to unsettle his family for more cash elsewhere. But even if he does sign a new deal you'll still probably find holes in it and say he'll be gone in Jan, then in Jan it'll be the same summer. Know you to well by now Joe

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Suarez isn't leaving my friend didn't you hear him when he said a few days ago he wants a new contract in the summer as his family and kid is very happy here, he wants the contract for more money so as he can stay without having to unsettle his family for more cash elsewhere. But even if he does sign a new deal you'll still probably find holes in it and say he'll be gone in Jan, then in Jan it'll be the same summer. Know you to well by now Joe
All I will say to that is:

his armband proved he was a red Torres Torres
you'll never walk alone it said Torres Torres
we bought the lad from sunny Spain
he gets the ball and he scores again
Fernando Torres liverpools number nine

I can most definately remember the lad from sunny Spain saying exactly the same things about how he was happy with the Club, how he loved the City and how his family were settled, If he can leave Suarez can most certainly leave, all this saying your happy is a way all players play it, they say it so as to protect there pay off and future signing on fee, nothing more nothing less just lip service am afraid...

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You kind if seem like you hate footballers, and you think that they are the least moral human beings in the world and they shouldn't be trusted. If you have such a low opinion of them, why do you follow the game? Just take up fishing or something. Or do you think the fish have a hidden agenda too?

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Originally Posted By: Pops
You kind if seem like you hate footballers, and you think that they are the least moral human beings in the world and they shouldn't be trusted. If you have such a low opinion of them, why do you follow the game? Just take up fishing or something. Or do you think the fish have a hidden agenda too?


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Originally Posted By: Pops
You kind if seem like you hate footballers, and you think that they are the least moral human beings in the world and they shouldn't be trusted. If you have such a low opinion of them, why do you follow the game? Just take up fishing or something. Or do you think the fish have a hidden agenda too?


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I know where you're coming from but if we finish 6th, we've been the 6th best team, irrelevant of points tally. If we finish 10th with more points, 9 other teams have secured more points than us so either a few teams have improved more than us, or the teams below have weakened more drastically. You can only determine how good you are by beating the opposition, if we finish 3 places lower, we're performing worse against our opposition.

6th to me is competing for top 4, as long as we're close. 9th is mid-table and a long way to go. That where we differ, I think top 4 is acheivable - maybe next season though, you think we'll finish 7-9th for the forseeable future.
We'll see where we are in 3 months.
so you dont want to improve on last season by winning more games while at the same time losing less over the season then...


Hypothetical for you Coolflames......say we happen to win the league next season with less points than we achieve at the end of this year? Would you say that's an improvement or not and would you be happy?

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I know where you're coming from but if we finish 6th, we've been the 6th best team, irrelevant of points tally. If we finish 10th with more points, 9 other teams have secured more points than us so either a few teams have improved more than us, or the teams below have weakened more drastically. You can only determine how good you are by beating the opposition, if we finish 3 places lower, we're performing worse against our opposition.

6th to me is competing for top 4, as long as we're close. 9th is mid-table and a long way to go. That where we differ, I think top 4 is acheivable - maybe next season though, you think we'll finish 7-9th for the forseeable future.
We'll see where we are in 3 months.
so you dont want to improve on last season by winning more games while at the same time losing less over the season then...


Hypothetical for you Coolflames......say we happen to win the league next season with less points than we achieve at the end of this year? Would you say that's an improvement or not and would you be happy?
I think if you read one of my previous postings, I said once you get into the top four its all about League positions, when you are in the position of you will never win a League all you can hope for is improvement on the previous season as in games won, lost and points achieved and hopefuly a bit of glory as in winning one of the Cups, I feel for us as a football club this is the utmost we are ever going to achieve now as a Club, just my opinion tho...

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Points will vary from season to season, up and down depending in how competitive the teams are. I believe that this season and last season there is a lot more competition for places so side will gain and lose points in a variety of ways ie. winning and losing games a side wouldn't expect to on paper. This is why I think position is more important. Obviously points make a big part if where you finish a season but it also depends on the strength of the competition which for me has increased particularly over the last 3 seasons.

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