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the thing is mate i'm still on the fence with FSG myself. i do not have blind faith in them whatsoever. but you have to draw the line somewhere and think about it properly, sensibly, without jerking your knee and wanting everything yesterday. you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt and take a fair approach. the only thing you can back up is the fact that we are failing. but can the owners be held completely responsible for absolutely every mistake made by playing and none playing staff at the club?

we failed in the league last season. now they've got their man and have chosen to bring in a manager they believe will help nurture the clubs youngsters. in all fairness this is only the very beginning of what they plan to do. to them and their strategy this is something that is always going to take time.

and i work at anfield, the area has been the way it is now for many years even under moores' reign too. i don't think they deserve to take the blame for the poor state of the community. i'd think the stadium expansion would come first before any other plans



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Ive been trying to stay positive but the owners need to make some more signings this window,its good they have got in alot of young talent for the future, but they need to show more signs of intent to challenge now, patience is wearing thin

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Originally Posted By: Dogbox
Ive been trying to stay positive but the owners need to make some more signings this window,its good they have got in alot of young talent for the future, but they need to show more signs of intent to challenge now, patience is wearing thin


I must say that I am quite confused with the target that FSG has set, not only for this season, but also for the next few seasons. It looked clear that KD was sacked because we did not qualify for champions league despite the fact that we desperately needed a striker last Jan (because with Suarez banned we were just to short), Jelavic would have made a big difference I believe.

This year I don't think that it would be fair to set a top 4 finish target for BR, but, I would feel his target is at least to finish in the Europa League qualification. FSG doesn't give a damn about Cups. Now, I think that with the money FSG has spent, a Europa League qualification is a fair target and as their priority is probably not top 4 this year, they are not going to spend massively more.

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Wasted money? We do have scouts don't we? Or have we sold them to?

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People dont praise when its due. FSG do have good points. There not As rich, no. I didnt see anybody moaning about how poor they were when they came in and bought us. Oh its a miracle, thislot will be better than hicks and gillete. Get a grip. they nealy ran us into administration trying to spend money they didnt have. We dont have big money, get over it. People are crying about spilt milk acting dramatic like its eastenders.Dont have to like FSG or even think there taking the club forward. But instead of ranting on here with hypocritical view points, be more open minded to reality.


Read between my lines.
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That was me Scott and factually its proven Lucas does make the others around him better... Gerrard has the most assists 8 and 6 of those since Lucas has returned...

Anyway that's besides the point. FSG are not hear for the long term... They want to stabilise the club in terms of setting it up for FFP.. Sort out Anfield, there is another meeting today with the Council. Then sell the club and get someone else to pay for it all..

That is pretty clear by the lack of investment and movement on these issues.


it will take upto two years to remove the residents from Anfield. This is not an LFC issue but one borne from the councils ignorance to the situation. They have blamed both clubs for the degeneration of the area when in fact both are the largest contributors to the borough of anfield/Everton.

on the investment side I think we are finally starting to buy players we need rather than what we can get. If he is not available then we should not buy. All previous regime's have bought badly due to first choice being unavailable.
each player we add must be upto standard. Joe cole and Sahin were on 90k each a week and not contributing, I am lad they have been moved on quickly. FSG have alot to but I want them to make good choices and not hopeful ones like two years ago.


Are you serious? Buying kids which is what we have done and letting go of senior pro's is a terrible plan.

It's not working clearly... And We're starting to buy players?

Err how about the 3 we've let go this window and only 1 in...

How's that an improvement in terms of numbers of playing staff?


i think you need to step back and remove yourself from the near panic state you are in.

our best transfer policy in the last 10yrs has been when we bought young up and coming talent, not kids but those professionals who have played 2/3 seasons.

Alonso(22), Agger(21), Skrtel(22), Mascherano (22), Torres (23), Reina (23), Lucas(20), Babel(19)

all in all we have a far better success rate than buying top dawer pros. Thats why I am confident that Allen, Sturridge, Henderson, Borini, Coates and possibly Ince will turn out well for us. We have enough experienced players throughout the side - we now need hunger and ambition, this generally comes with younger players

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I have my reservations about Coates due to his pace. He needs to be loaned out I think to learn the game and develop an understanding of defending that Hypia possessed

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I have my reservations about Coates due to his pace. He needs to be loaned out I think to learn the game and develop an understanding of defending that Hypia possessed


So Hyypia had pace? Is it essential to have pace as a CB? I would rather have them hard as [oops], but thats my opinion.

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Hyypia clearly didn't have pace? What he did have was an excellent awareness of where the danger was coming which negated his lack of pace. this is what Coates needs to learn and he'll only develop it by getting games.

Try read the posts fully instead of jumping onto one point wrongly

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Originally Posted By: JP1892
People dont praise when its due. FSG do have good points. There not As rich, no. I didnt see anybody moaning about how poor they were when they came in and bought us. Oh its a miracle, thislot will be better than hicks and gillete. Get a grip. they nealy ran us into administration trying to spend money they didnt have. We dont have big money, get over it. People are crying about spilt milk acting dramatic like its eastenders.Dont have to like FSG or even think there taking the club forward. But instead of ranting on here with hypocritical view points, be more open minded to reality.


You say they have good points and deserve praise... Then fail to mention any...

Sounds Legit!

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