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Re: Ambition & Pragmatism kubrick #292832 18/12/12 07:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 23,084 Destination unknown lumba Liverpool Legend
lumba Liverpool Legend Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 23,084 Destination unknown	Top 10 threads of the year imo.Ambition. Last edited by lumba; 18/12/12 07:31 PM. That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism lumba #292833 18/12/12 07:32 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Nah - the best thread I've seen is the "ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY". Cracks me up!

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism Carheex #292840 18/12/12 07:40 PM
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Toothy Under 23 Player T Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,537	wonder what site that aup came from

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism #292856 18/12/12 08:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU Stanley Park Liverpool Legend
Stanley Park Liverpool Legend Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU	I agree KP we are not accountants we are football fans. IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism #292863 18/12/12 08:17 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet Originally Posted By: CarheeX I shall try again.... I disagree that we should be aiming for 2nd publicly. We need to aim where we can realistically expect to finish. Aiming for 2nd but finishing 10th would destroy confidence and make the manager look like a buffoon that is massively under achieving. (That may already describe him but he shouldn't be hanging himself out to dry as it reflects badly on the club.) We should aim for 7th - a slight improvement on last year and very achieveable. If we finish higher then it boosts everyone connected to the club. Aiming for 2nd WILL lead to disappointment and will put massive pressure on BR. We need to be ambitious but must adopt a pragmatic mindset until we have taken steps forward. No point in trying to run before we can walk. It's obvious you'll disagree no matter what he does... Can we be anything but pragmatic and look forward SP... the alternative is spiritual decay! Not true at all. I'm 100% behind BR's decision to leave Henderson out of the team whenever possible. I'm 100% behind his decision to get rid of the useless Andy Carroll. And I'm 100% behind his decision to drop Reina in favour of Jones for a while. I was 100% behind his hope to sign Dempsey and I am 100% behind his idea to play Enrique further forward (he should try the same with Johnson). Get your facts right please.

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism Stanley Park #292866 18/12/12 08:19 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park I agree KP we are not accountants we are football fans. Stop moaning about ticket prices then if money's not important.

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism #292867 18/12/12 08:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair! Carheex 1st Team Squad
Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet Originally Posted By: CarheeX Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet Originally Posted By: CarheeX I shall try again.... I disagree that we should be aiming for 2nd publicly. We need to aim where we can realistically expect to finish. Aiming for 2nd but finishing 10th would destroy confidence and make the manager look like a buffoon that is massively under achieving. (That may already describe him but he shouldn't be hanging himself out to dry as it reflects badly on the club.) We should aim for 7th - a slight improvement on last year and very achieveable. If we finish higher then it boosts everyone connected to the club. Aiming for 2nd WILL lead to disappointment and will put massive pressure on BR. We need to be ambitious but must adopt a pragmatic mindset until we have taken steps forward. No point in trying to run before we can walk. It's obvious you'll disagree no matter what he does... Can we be anything but pragmatic and look forward SP... the alternative is spiritual decay! Not true at all. I'm 100% behind BR's decision to leave Henderson out of the team whenever possible. I'm 100% behind his decision to get rid of the useless Andy Carroll. And I'm 100% behind his decision to drop Reina in favour of Jones for a while. I was 100% behind his hope to sign Dempsey and I am 100% behind his idea to play Enrique further forward (he should try the same with Johnson). Get your facts right please. That's about as backhanded as Faz congratulating Corinthians!

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism Stanley Park #292874 18/12/12 08:35 PM
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joecool Under 18 Player J Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 983	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park I agree KP we are not accountants we are football fans. no were not, we stopped being football fans years ago, we are now customers and clients now. Just for the record Stanley, I have accepted we are no longer a big Club years ago mate, famous old name yes but a big Club sorry no more, I think we are a club who if we have the best season possible could reach about 5th but most probably each season more likely anywhere between 7th and 9th. It's not that I am being defeatist, just been too many false dawns over the last 20 odd years, the Club is no longer geared towards Champions League football as we are not big enough and don't have the infilstructure, top 6 or 7 place and a domestic cup each season with good attacking football will do for me, owners who actually care and the Club returning to the true fans is just a dream too far unfortunately... Last edited by joecool; 18/12/12 08:36 PM.

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism joecool #292876 18/12/12 08:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU Stanley Park Liverpool Legend
Stanley Park Liverpool Legend Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU	no you are right joe we are customers not football fans thats true. but i am sure 5th is not the limit of our ambition a few good signings could change thinks. The concern is replaceing gerrard because he carried us for many years and now he is waning IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY

Re: Ambition & Pragmatism Stanley Park #292885 18/12/12 09:10 PM
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joecool Under 18 Player J Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 983	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park no you are right joe we are customers not football fans thats true. but i am sure 5th is not the limit of our ambition a few good signings could change thinks. The concern is replaceing gerrard because he carried us for many years and now he is waning Stanley we are not a champions league Club unfortunately, the top four are on a whole different level both on and off the field than us, even the fifth best team Spurs look a couple of years off being caught and that's only if we ever got our act together which unfortunately doesn't look like happening. We have new rivals we need to try and stay in front of now like Everton, Newcastle, Stoke, Fulham and West Brom...

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