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Originally Posted By: JP1892
Ok yes the week before then .........?


Sorry, I wasn't trying to correct you there, just emphasising your point.. they drew to Chelsea and beat Newcastle (which makes it more impressive - for me at least), I see how that was confusing.

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Dont know why Liverpool fans are complaining no team deserved to win, just two evenly matched teams who canceled eachother out, both will finish mid table, the return game at Anfield could easily have the same result again, this is the point I am making...

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Originally Posted By: joecool
Dont know why Liverpool fans are complaining no team deserved to win, just two evenly matched teams who canceled eachother out, both will finish mid table, the return game at Anfield could easily have the same result again, this is the point I am making...


I am sure you would be delighted with that.


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Yea good points bar I agree with being hard to beat - all the top teams need that. But we also have to have balls and go for games when we play in games where it's for the taking. Today was one of them. I'd have rather have lost trying to really go for the win than just draw. That's just me.

Also your point about the points tally is correct which really frustrated me today. If we had one we would be in 8th and we are already playing catch up. There's not many points that separate us from higher positions but the points between 4th and where we are dare I anywhere Everton are is growing and growing


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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
unbeaten in 8 now is it? Pretty decent. I don't think a point against swansea is particularly impressive, but I think its where we are at as a team right now. We drew away to a team currently doing better than us, that can't be a bad result can it?

The worry is that we never look like creating clear opportunities, the system doesn't seem to be doing its supposed job. With a minute left to go skrtel and reina were playing it to each other? That's just dumb. This isn't the right kind of possesion, not much of a footballing philosophy.

We took a gamble on a young manager that works with young players and for not much money and plays a possession game. That's what he's doing. Our team probably should be able to get 7th with the right manager and he's about one game off of that so he's not doing too badly whilst trying to get the team to change their playing style. People need to lower their expectations if they are getting upset by a draw away to swansea. We will have many more days like this in the weeks to come.

Let's give this guy time to see if he can make the step up, he's learning all the time too. He's about one or two games short of the points I personally think this team should have. If there is serious criticism of him, it has to be in his transfers in thus far.

Good post, completely agree, especially the part in bold!


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i think people should stop looking at who we are playing and focus on how we are playing. If we are playing well I think we are more than capable of competing.


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Originally Posted By: JP1892
Yea good points bar I agree with being hard to beat - all the top teams need that. But we also have to have balls and go for games when we play in games where it's for the taking. Today was one of them. I'd have rather have lost trying to really go for the win than just draw. That's just me.

Also your point about the points tally is correct which really frustrated me today. If we had one we would be in 8th and we are already playing catch up. There's not many points that separate us from higher positions but the points between 4th and where we are dare I anywhere Everton are is growing and growing

Yeah, if we won today we'd have been 8th. I think realistically 6th-8th is gonna be a good finish for us this season. We were 1 goal today away from being within that bracket, yet you'd swear from some of the reactions that we were miles off course. We could surprise everyone and win at Spurs next week, and things could look a whole lot rosier.


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I don't know where we will finish but I know that if we can't convert draws into wins it won't matter where we finish AS IT WILL BE MILES OFF 4th. I always say the players know each other best as they play with each other so regular and if you ask them where they think we should be aiming for. They all say the top 4. I don't think we will get that but I don't think we should be far off.


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Originally Posted By: JP1892
I don't know where we will finish but I know that if we can't convert draws into wins it won't matter where we finish AS IT WILL BE MILES OFF 4th. I always say the players know each other best as they play with each other so regular and if you ask them where they think we should be aiming for. They all say the top 4. I don't think we will get that but I don't think we should be far off.

We started off losing a lot of games. Some might say we've converted the defeats into draws. The next step would be converting the draws into wins. If you started playing FIFA on amateur level and master that, you don't jump straight up to World Class or Legendary do you? You take it one step at a time as you progress.


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It don't matter if you use FIFA metaphors to try and convince me how far off we are.lol The truth is I dont feel we are that far off. I feel we need more balls in periods of the game( guts) and a little bit more fire power wouldn't go a miss neither. Everybody's struggled this season which is good for us because we'd be further off if teams were not all beating each other.


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