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In a perfect world where the situation is the same - Yes.
But you can't give one manager £150m to invest on their team and implementing their system then bring in a new manager who you know for a fact will need to completely overhaul the team/system at a fraction of that investment and expect the same result, it's just madness CarheeX. It will take time to see the best of Brendan Rodgers and his system, surely other fans can see this? In terms of league position, it'll be at least a season (and two transfer windows) before we can expect and improvement on 8th position, and you know what.. I'd absolutely love to see a turn around in terms of longevity at the club. I hope Rodgers is given the time and a fair chance. Why do you need to overhaul a team completely to improve by at least one position? You talk as if we were relegated last season or have a relegation team or all our last year players were walking deads. Do you know how many internationals play in our current team? Incredible. Sorry Vish, that may have been a little misleading. We all know that Brendan Rodgers was brought in to manager Liverpool because of his 'footballing philosophy' (whatever that means) and whatever that entails. We all knew, especially the owners who're who I was referring to that understood he needed to overhaul the squad to achieve what he was brought in to implement. Exactly, whatever 'footballing philosophy' means. Sometimes it sounds like BR is trying/designing something unique or maybe only next to Barca. If it works it would be something great else it would be one of the biggest scam in football, anyway, he would have taken a couple of football stupid Americans for a ride. I hope he doesn't tell the Americans that his philosophy can only work with Messi in it...
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Rodgers needed to get rid of his dross and bring in his players at bargain basement prices compared to KD. And after having got rid of that dross, spent 30 million on his own players, he is performing worse than KK. I've said all along it is too early to judge, but he really needs to Buck (see what I did there !!) his ideas up sharpish. adam, henderson, carrol , downing enough said really
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he's a bullsh1tter, does any1 believe what he says to press,?
I bet he doesnt himself.
The footy does the talkin full of hypocrites on here. You crticise Kenny for not saying anything and being anti-press and not slagging the players off after bad games. Gerrard said we were aiming for top 4 and you come on saying he is cuckoo land and need to get real blah, blah blah. Now BR's makes a true statement that finishing above last year is the target and he still is slagged off. The press have you guys on strings - right load of puppets +1. Spot on. If anybody on here even suggests we may have a shot of finishing in the top 4, they're lifted out of it and laughed off as living with their heads in the clouds. Brendan is honest and says it'd be great to improve on last season's 8th spot, and he's blasted for it. Let's put this in perspective - he's saying we should be aiming for AT LEAST 7th. That's 7th or higher, and we have people on here hanging him for that?! Are we for f*cking real?? Who on here thinks we even have a chance of finishing higher than 7th?? Because I haven't seen anybody lately saying that we have. Absolute joke. Bunch of hypocrites the lot of you. I actually think those bandying the term hyprocrite about are way off the mark. These aren't the same people saying contradictory things. I for example, as you put it, laugh off suggestions we could finish 4th, but I don't chastise Rodgers for being realistic. I think he should have been realistic earlier, but I'm not up in arms that he's doing it now.
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he's a bullsh1tter, does any1 believe what he says to press,?
I bet he doesnt himself.
The footy does the talkin full of hypocrites on here. You crticise Kenny for not saying anything and being anti-press and not slagging the players off after bad games. Gerrard said we were aiming for top 4 and you come on saying he is cuckoo land and need to get real blah, blah blah. Now BR's makes a true statement that finishing above last year is the target and he still is slagged off. The press have you guys on strings - right load of puppets +1. Spot on. If anybody on here even suggests we may have a shot of finishing in the top 4, they're lifted out of it and laughed off as living with their heads in the clouds. Brendan is honest and says it'd be great to improve on last season's 8th spot, and he's blasted for it. Let's put this in perspective - he's saying we should be aiming for AT LEAST 7th. That's 7th or higher, and we have people on here hanging him for that?! Are we for f*cking real?? Who on here thinks we even have a chance of finishing higher than 7th?? Because I haven't seen anybody lately saying that we have. Absolute joke. Bunch of hypocrites the lot of you. I actually think those bandying the term hyprocrite about are way off the mark. These aren't the same people saying contradictory things. I for example, as you put it, laugh off suggestions we could finish 4th, but I don't chastise Rodgers for being realistic. I think he should have been realistic earlier, but I'm not up in arms that he's doing it now. Can you tell me then, MBIR, what's all the fuss about that people are kicking up about his comments?
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'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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Its a thread posted by ONE person.
It is a 'negative thread'. There are many threads; positive and negative. (Thats what makes a forum).
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Its a thread posted by ONE person.
It is a 'negative thread'. There are many threads; positive and negative. (Thats what makes a forum). That doesn't answer the question that I asked (someone else) though. Why the fuss over BR's comments? How do you personally feel about them, Toothy?
*RODGERS *SKRTEL *JONJO
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'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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Well, if you didnt ask me a question that would explain why I didnt answer it LOL
come on bar keep with it
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Well, if you didnt ask me a question that would explain why I didnt answer it LOL
come on bar keep with it I just asked you one, yet you didn't answer it..
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It would indeed be foolish to sack a manager every year, especially if he was doing well. But no one is suggesting that we sack people for the sake of it - your comments are very odd at times.
You may or may not have seen my remark a few posts prior to this one saying that we should find a good manager and stick with him.
Surely keeping someone who is doing badly is far worse than sacking someone who is doing badly!? BR can't be given special dispensation just because the 2 managers before him didn't last very long. He needs to be judged purely on how well he does in the league against expectation.
Forget the last few years for a moment.....would you be so defensive of BRs bottom half placing if he had taken over after Benitez or Houllier? I doubt it very much - you'd be saying that he's dragged us down to the level of Stoke, Wigan and Norwich whereas his predecessors were winning cups, finishing in the top4, being crowned as champions of europe etc...
People are being lenient towards brendan because of how long RH & KD lasted - they are not forming their opinions on how 'well' he is doing. See this is where 'opinion' comes into the fray. You seem to be of the opinion that BR is "out of his depth" and "not up to the job". I (and many others) disagree with this opinion, which is why we'd choose to stick behind him. If you've lost faith in him, then that's your business, and your opinion, and would explain why you may want him out. You should realise that other people aren't quite so fickle though, and understand that their faith in his ability as a manager would be reason enough for them not to want to see him sacked for aiming for 7th place. I have no problem with him aiming for 7th. In fact, that's exactly where he should be aiming. No one should expect or accept a bottom half finish, and anything higher than 6th/7th is just absurd. I only want him sacked if we end up in the bottom half at the end of this season.
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I hope he doesn't tell the Americans that his philosophy can only work with Messi in it... If they'll go out and buy him, then that's exactly what I hope he's telling them 
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