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it will be a win for us. probably a decently hard-fought win. no, i have no stats or evidence to support this. just go with it!

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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I don't agree that we don't have the players, I just don't think they are used to the system yet. It will be easier to judge how they are progressing by Christmas. Shelvey and Allen have both looked very comfortable in the new system. Johnson has been playing well as well. Agger is made for it. Most of our defensive mistakes have come from a slightly nervous Skrtel who is still adapting. My main concern is the scoring aspect but I can't see any system helping us in that regard with what we have at our disposal



Adapting to what??? he's being asked to play football, not carry out heart surgery. Sorry, but I think we're giving our players far too many excuses for not being up to scratch. How long do you think is necessary for players to adapt to a slightly different way of playing? They adapt what they do all day every day and in every game - they don't do exactly the smae thing all the time and don't only do what they are told in training. Let's not give give them excuses for being poor - they need to start pulling their weight, each and every one of them.

I'm fed up of hearing that we've underperformed because of hicks&gillet, hodgson, dalglish, FA conspiracies, FSG, bad luck/hitting the woodwork, biased referees, BR's new system, beach balls, etc etc etc......Seriously, all I hear is excuses trying to justify why we're not as far up the table 'as we deserve to be'! Let's just admit it - we're not very good. The individuals we think are top class, just aren't.


It takes a long enough time for them to adapt and learn from their mistakes. Skrtel hopefully won't be giving as many blind back passes to Reina but I think he is capable of playing in the system but it was that kind of mistake that has cost us.

I never blamed the woodwork or anything like that but it does take time to adjust to what is a radically different way of playing for a defender particularly when they have always had the option of hoofing and mistakes will happen. I will judge the players on whether they are good enough around Christmas time when they will have the guts of 25 matches under their belts

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Originally Posted By: kubrick
Sunderland were dog sh&t for the 2nd half of last season. The day we worry about them is the day I worry about the sun imploding. There are bigger fish to fry in this league. LFC may be poor right now . . . but get a grip . . . we're no where near that poor . . . not yet anyway!


Thats worrying, they gained more points/wins then us in the second half of last season.

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Originally Posted By: kubrick
Sunderland were dog sh&t for the 2nd half of last season. The day we worry about them is the day I worry about the sun imploding. There are bigger fish to fry in this league. LFC may be poor right now . . . but get a grip . . . we're no where near that poor . . . not yet anyway!


I think every fan can see a general improvement on the way we play but we are still learning and giving it away even high up the pitch against dangerous sides can cost us goals as we saw against Arsenal. We are ok but nowhere near the level we want to be just yet as we continue to drop points.


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I'm talking about form of recent seasons gone by. We've beaten them ONCE in the last 6 games/3 seasons. Anyone who thinks we're miles better than them and don't need to worry isn't living in the real world. It's not going to help us that we've got a new manager still trying to get the team to play his way. You also need to ask yourself, 'have we strengthened more than Sunderland since our last meeting'.....?

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Originally Posted By: kubrick
Sunderland were dog sh&t for the 2nd half of last season. The day we worry about them is the day I worry about the sun imploding. There are bigger fish to fry in this league. LFC may be poor right now . . . but get a grip . . . we're no where near that poor . . . not yet anyway!


Remind me, how well did WE do for the second half of last season in the league?

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Originally Posted By: kubrick
Sunderland were dog sh&t for the 2nd half of last season. The day we worry about them is the day I worry about the sun imploding. There are bigger fish to fry in this league. LFC may be poor right now . . . but get a grip . . . we're no where near that poor . . . not yet anyway!


Blatantly inaccurate statement. They got 19 points in the 1st half of the season and 27 in the 2nd. They have improved again this year bringing in Fletcher and Johnson. They will be pushing for the top half this season I reckon

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We had a reasonably good away form last season so maybe we can take some heart from that, says he clutching at straws. My heart says we can take a point here but my head is weary and lacking in confidence!

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Id be in a similar situation. I don't expect a win but I think we can get something out of the game.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: kubrick
Sunderland were dog sh&t for the 2nd half of last season. The day we worry about them is the day I worry about the sun imploding. There are bigger fish to fry in this league. LFC may be poor right now . . . but get a grip . . . we're no where near that poor . . . not yet anyway!


Remind me, how well did WE do for the second half of last season in the league?


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