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I don't see how this comment belongs in a thread about a specific game, but for the sake of it, could you list the players you don't feel fit into the new style of football/system?

Anyone from the starting XI would be fine.

I don't think we do have better players. If our players were as good as we think they are then how come we've been so poor for the last 2 years? you can't blame everything on bad luck, hitting the post too much and internal disputes - at some point you have to say, 'hang on, our players really aren't as good as we claim'.

I was replying to the post, quote "allen is fantastic and i like what BR is trying to do, pity FSG's committee on transfers is not in sync yet as we now have a 17yr old, a misfiring suarez and poor looking italian to win us games ..its not going to happen for a long time, i can't see where a win is going to come" unquote, basically saying that only Allen fits the system. To answer to your question I don't see the system working, we look very nervous at the back trying to have possession starting from our keeper and we are very sterile in front despite higher possession than our opponents in all of our games so far. I am worried that a quick player like Andrew Johnson can hit us on the counter on Saturday.

I don't agree that we don't have the players, I just don't think they are used to the system yet. It will be easier to judge how they are progressing by Christmas. Shelvey and Allen have both looked very comfortable in the new system. Johnson has been playing well as well. Agger is made for it. Most of our defensive mistakes have come from a slightly nervous Skrtel who is still adapting. My main concern is the scoring aspect but I can't see any system helping us in that regard with what we have at our disposal

You could be right and we'll probably know by Christmas, however, in such a system there will always be a high risk of making mistakes at the back, watch Barca, they also have it with their keeper caught every now and then. But Barca knows how to score in a tight defence (park the bus type) with the players they have, we don't have those, so not sure how this can work. Would love to be proven wrong.

I was looking forward to going to this game but after reading this lot I think I'll stay at home.

2-1 reds for me!!

Adapting to what??? he's being asked to play football, not carry out heart surgery. Sorry, but I think we're giving our players far too many excuses for not being up to scratch. How long do you think is necessary for players to adapt to a slightly different way of playing? They adapt what they do all day every day and in every game - they don't do exactly the smae thing all the time and don't only do what they are told in training. Let's not give give them excuses for being poor - they need to start pulling their weight, each and every one of them.

I'm fed up of hearing that we've underperformed because of hicks&gillet, hodgson, dalglish, FA conspiracies, FSG, bad luck/hitting the woodwork, biased referees, BR's new system, beach balls, etc etc etc......Seriously, all I hear is excuses trying to justify why we're not as far up the table 'as we deserve to be'! Let's just admit it - we're not very good. The individuals we think are top class, just aren't.

we are not that bad and did play some great stuff under Kenny. Our problem is not the first team as it stands its the toll on a very thin squad who will play 5games in 14days. Sunderland, we maybe ok as we are a decent team. Cut out the errors and who knows. Come Christmas and we might look a right mess, unless somebody seriously steps up from the youth team - Suso, Morgan,yesil and the likes.

small mercies.. wouldn't like to go under the knife with him not the most accurate fellow is he?

Beach Ball was the last possiblity that FSG failed to get in the transfer window. We couldnt even sign him and he would have increased our scoring potential