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where does fairness come into it ? seriously players get sent off banned for nothing every season goals disallowed for nothing , clubs fined mostly by uefa for nothing it always been this way its there game they make the rules , they dont change just because its luis suarez he wasa found guilty and now he has decided to break strict club rule by opening it all up once again .


Fairness comes into it in order to understand why Suarez feels agrieved. You can't compare what he's been villified for with either yellow cards or fines. He has been deemed guilty of and punished for intentional and repeated racially agravated abuse, something he has always denied and for which there is no supporting independent evidence.

answer me this why would manchester united conspirer to get suarez banned ? when liverpool are and have been no threat to manchester united in the league or in europe last season and for many season , the logic thing would to get aguero banned or van persie or tevez as they are and were threats , i dont get this that they decided to conspirer to do this .


very funny Faz. You don't give a straight answer to other people's questions, go off on a tangent when you can't answer a specific point, and then start your comment with 'answer me this'.

I'll give you the courtesy of a straightforward reply. Whether we're competing on the pitch or not, the rivalry between LFC and Manchester United has reached unheatlthy and undesirable levels. That includes 'hatred' as openly stated not by moronic fans but players including Gary Neville and Wayne Rooney.

Fergie has done nothing to address that. On the contrary he thrives on it. The guy has a pathological dislike, perhaps hatred of Liverpool and anyone associated with Liverpool who brings us glory. That includes Dalglish who was our manager when the incident occurred and with whom Fergie has a rivalry going back 30 years, and Suarez who helped humiliate his team when we won 4-1. It still riles Fergie that in 25 years at the helm of the richest club in the world, he only has 2 Champions Leagues under his belt whereas we have 5, including one brought to us by Rafa in season 1 when Fergie to 13 years for his first.

He will therefore take any and every opportunity to destabilise Liverpool. If you don't even suspect that Faz, then you must be on a different planet to most LFC fans.

yeh ok !!! seriously do you really believe what you have wrote ?

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
yeh ok !!! seriously do you really believe what you have wrote ?


Yes I do. Excuse the irony here, but on the balance of probabilities, I believe it's true.

And I'd also wager that so do most fans on this forum, perhaps even everyone except you. We could put it to the test with a poll in a thread.

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yeh ok !!! seriously do you really believe what you have wrote ?


Yes I do. Excuse the irony here, but on the balance of probabilities, I believe it's true.

And I'd also wager that so do most fans on this forum, perhaps even everyone except you. We could put it to the test with a poll in a thread.
so you believe in the conspiracy that manchester united cooked this up one day just decided to do it , come on be serious .

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In my opinion if Suarez was asked about it he has every rights to answer, its a free country and he has the freedom of speech. Everybody was getting worked up on 'freedom of speech' during Ferdinand's comments, and so Suarez is allowed to say what he wants.

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In my opinion if Suarez was asked about it he has every rights to answer, its a free country and he has the freedom of speech. Everybody was getting worked up on 'freedom of speech' during Ferdinand's comments, and so Suarez is allowed to say what he wants.
no but sorry if his employers have instructed him not to comment then he is out of order , IE similar to people who work for the government and sign the secrets acts they have been informed not to say anything so your wrong .

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That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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In my opinion if Suarez was asked about it he has every rights to answer, its a free country and he has the freedom of speech. Everybody was getting worked up on 'freedom of speech' during Ferdinand's comments, and so Suarez is allowed to say what he wants.
no but sorry if his employers have instructed him not to comment then he is out of order , IE similar to people who work for the government and sign the secrets acts they have been informed not to say anything so your wrong .


They probably 'asked' him, but its not official. He's a human, and he's allowed to say his view,

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
so you believe in the conspiracy that manchester united cooked this up one day just decided to do it , come on be serious .


No you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't state or even suggest they cooked this up. Keep it simple Faz and you might start to hear what other people are saying sometimes.

What they did do was take advantage of a situation where Liverpool were on the back foot. Obviously something had happened, but was it as bad as Evra and Fergie made it out to be at the time? We now know it certainly wasn't.

You said you read the report. In which case you will know that the original accusation from Evra was that he had been called a 'N1gger'. Fergie also used this word when he spoke to the referee.

A few points for you to consider:

- Why didn't Fergie and the United management contact Dalglish and the Liverpool management first and try and sort it out that way?
- Why did they use the inflamotory word 'N1gger' when telling the referee after the game, but on during the game Evra used the less inflamatory word 'black'
- Who or what made Evra exaggerate his claim from 'black' to 'N1gger'?
- Why did the FA meet with Evra 3 times in secret leading up to the hearing and not share either the fact that they had met Evra or the notes of the meeting until the morning of the trial?
- Why was Evra allowed to give his version of events whilst watching a video whilst Suarez was asked to give evidence without the video?

Wake up Faz.


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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
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so you believe in the conspiracy that manchester united cooked this up one day just decided to do it , come on be serious .


No you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't state or even suggest they cooked this up. Keep it simple Faz and you might start to hear what other people are saying sometimes.

What they did do was take advantage of a situation where Liverpool were on the back foot. Obviously something had happened, but was it as bad as Evra and Fergie made it out to be at the time? We now know it certainly wasn't.

You said you read the report. In which case you will know that the original accusation from Evra was that he had been called a 'N1gger'. Fergie also used this word when he spoke to the referee.

A few points for you to consider:

- Why didn't Fergie and the United management contact Dalglish and the Liverpool management first and try and sort it out that way?
- Why did they use the inflamotory word 'N1gger' when telling the referee after the game, but on during the game Evra used the less inflamatory word 'black'
- Who or what made Evra exaggerate his claim from 'black' to 'N1gger'?
- Why did the FA meet with Evra 3 times in secret leading up to the hearing and not share either the fact that they had met Evra or the notes of the meeting until the morning of the trial?
- Why was Evra allowed to give his version of events whilst watching a video whilst Suarez was asked to give evidence without the video?

Wake up Faz.

dalglish could have stopped it easily by contacting ferguson because i know it hard to believe from people like you but they talk all the time managers and clubs , but remember dalglish handled it badly and said suarez did nothing wrong inflaming the issue instead of calming it down , now i think you need to wake up mate not me .

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Give it up man, you'll never convince people like Faz & Focus/ianrush, they don't want to believe the best in those pesky foreigners who've invaded 'their' club, like Suarez and Rafa. They're just stuck in the 70's I think.

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