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#242622 15/06/12 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Perhaps in the past they were, but not really now. They've had too many failures to be arrogant.

Personally, I think with the population, the facilities, the money, the strength of the league, England should have a team that's better than France, Holland etc on a level playing field with Germany, and not too far behind Spain.

As it stands, they're viewed as less than all of those sides. England fans have a right to be annoyed.

Irish fans on the other hand, well the population is tiny, there is no real league to speak of, poor facilities etc. It's an achievement just to be there.
England fans are similar to Liverpool fans in some ways in that they think they are bigger and better than they actualy are, both have expectations of grandua.
If I look at some of the other Nations I see a bit of a difference in there fans, Scotland and Wales are very patriotic in not just there support for the national side but also there countries clubs sides, you dont get many Wales fans not supporting Swansea or Cardiff e.t.c., Scotland fans supporting Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen e.t.c. however when you look at the likes of Northern and Southern Ireland supporters they may be patriotic towards there national side but wont back there countries own Clubs and instead choose more successful teams in England to support instead, So I suppose each of the home nations is different.

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Hardly as England have won fukk all to be arrogant about.


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Originally Posted By: lumba
Hardly as England have won fukk all to be arrogant about.
what about us, one Champions League in nearly 30 years and no leagues in nearly 25, what you call that then.

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Why are you turning this to a Liverpool fan thing when it is a question about England fans,whats your agenda?


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Originally Posted By: ianrush81
Originally Posted By: lumba
Hardly as England have won fukk all to be arrogant about.
what about us, one Champions League in nearly 30 years and no leagues in nearly 25, what you call that then.
We've,as in Liverpool have won plenty in my lifetime,what's your point if there is one?


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lumba,he is saying that we have diversions of grandua

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Originally Posted By: wakka
Why are you turning this to a Liverpool fan thing when it is a question about England fans,whats your agenda?
I am using the arrogance of alot of Liverpool fans as a demonstration of how fans can become arrogant similar to what the post is about namely England fans. I think England fans do think they are better than they actualy are which is what I can relate to given some of the people I know and some who come on here. I think it may stem from the fact England is a strong football nation where the people of the country like there football maybe if it was one of the very small minnow type countries football wise like Latvia, Faroe Islands, Republic of Ireland or Lithuania then the expectation would'nt be as great, just my thoughts.

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Good pop at Ireland again smile

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think you managed to insult everyone there, well done.


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