KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum The case for Dalglish to resign at the end of this season.

if you have a point of few make it, you can do so without offending people who have a different opinion. thank you.

Whoever thinks Dalglish should be sacked or should resign should be ashamed of themselves. After everything he's done, certain sections of "fans" are calling for his head.
He may have had a difficult campaign, but he's a good manager. One of the top 5 in the world. GIVE HIM TIME!!!

i think we need to just be more respectful of each other, im not promoting him staying or going.

calm down flames it was not meant to anyone on the forum

but take your point on board

MAJOR APOLOGIES TO ANYONE OFFENDED.

I have seen worse written on the forum

but respect the fact you have pulled me up.

no harm done

onwards and respectfully upwards

I do not think that Adam's assists tell the whole tale though, and it is interesting that both his goals were diverted into the opposition net via defensive errors rather than unfortunate deflections. I'm happy to agree that our midfield has for the most part been below par regardless of who we played, and that our decent run at the start of the season was almost certainly more due to the presence of Lucas than any other player we put beside him. I'd happily put the lot of them on the chopping block. For me though, the other players have shown they have something throughout the season - not much, perhaps, but something. Adam started well but within a month or so looked like he was struggling, and by the turn of the year was worse than dire. Kenny even gave him a second chance, but even he could only take so much of the attempted Hollywood ball or head down 40 yard dash method of midfield play.



I agree with this. I was merely trying to illustrate the point that we've been that close to "true" top 4 form in terms of goalscoring that it shouldn't take an inordinate amount of work to improve our strike-rate. I didn't suggest we were successful, merely that in order to hit the bar 35 times (the vast majority of which where the keeper was beaten) we created on average one extra clear-cut goal scoring opportunity each game than we scored from. You have to be doing something right if you're doing that, and that's the bit I'm optimistic about.



This doesn't seem like a rant to me, mate. I wasn't trying to imply we're a great side - we're not, and our league position is proof. But we do have a little something that we can work on, the suggestion that this is an under-performing rather than rank rubbish squad.



As I've said in other threads (and probably in this one, too lazy to check), Henderson's problem seems more to be with taking responsibility than playing in a specific position. He's been terrible when we've tried to use 2 holding midfielders, for instance, yet barring a goal-scoring mistake in his first attempt at the position has done a better job than Spearing (a more senior player with far greater experience) as a lone DM. He and Shelvey have to some extent shown signs of a partnership, even though I'm not convinced Shelvey is all that good as half of a double pivot midfield just yet because he's not got the defensive knack. None of this suggests Henderson is brilliant, of course, merely that he definitely has the potential to make something of a career in football if he can get his head right.

And yes, I like Andy Carroll, and have supported him from the moment we signed him because I think he has something about him that we've largely failed to unleash until recently. He took too long to adapt, but by the turn of the year when he was playing up front without Suarez (who was in the stands) he definitely started putting himself about more, and bit by bit became more confident etc. That I saw signs of that earlier than you is irrelevant - I think we agree that he's a good player we should keep.



I think there has not been a single side in the EPL that has not looked p!ss poor at some point in the season. I agree that top 4 was eminently achievable for this squad, but that we managed to stumble about all the time without ever getting a handle on our best XI and our best tactic. And now at the death we find our best way of playing is 4-4-2 with Carroll and Suarez, a formation that we supposedly signed up for when we bought both of them 18 months ago but somehow never really tried for any period of time. THAT is down to one man alone - Kenny Dalglish. I don't mind whether he stays or goes, but if he stays he needs to show that he's learned from what happened this season.



If he wants to play in the CL then let him find a CL qualified club who will sign him. He may struggle, because he still has the howler in him, but his actions remind me of certain other players who felt they had become bigger than the club. If he doesn't want to play for the red shirt he can f*ck off.

Didn't want to quote every bit individually as it would be a whole page if I did that in response as we are both quite verbose :P

But again with the key points I think we agree. It's just little points I'd question. I personally haven't seen anything from Hendo bar 10 minutes of maybe 3 games, to make me think he has any more potential than Adam. Ofcourse I mean while in the red of liverpool as opposed to sunderland where for a young kid I thought he looked pretty damm impressive. Like I said I don't think Adam was right, and he is limited, but I actually think his assists goals (okay maybe some luck involved with them) and general play has been superior to downing and Hendo largely. By no means do I think it's been good. I just think Hendo has been like having 1 less player and Downing apart from a few games has been doing all the wrong things.

With regards to Carroll I didn't mean you saw signs earlier, I meant I don't think his performances at the turn of the year were good. They were better. But no where near anything I'd want a back up striker to be doing let alone our no.9. I have to say the last 2 games, fair enough, actually unplayable, and if he keeps that up I'll never have been so happy to be wrong about a player. But up until mayyyyybe 4 games ago (that he has played in) he has been for me, a [oops] poor striker, even if he has put himself about more. But like I said, if he keeps up the last 2 performances I'd more than happily buy him a pint or two by way of an apology for the grief I've given him up to now (although I don't think my wallet could cope with his supposed appetite for a drink :P).

And again I agree that there is something here. We have dominated a large number of our games and created enough good to great chances. That is the one thing that keeps me from thinking kenny is obviously 100 percent not the right choice. The fact that we have been a tad (not unlucky because I don't think such a consistent pattern can be down to luck or lack there of but a tad) off where our play might suggest we might be results wise (beginning to sound like an arsenal fan when I say that though )

Lastly, I do once again agree that if a player doesn't wanna be here then they can f off as the club is bigger. But there comes a time when you have to try and keep your better players otherwise you aren't gonna get anywhere. Skrtel is not in that category, and also there may be no truth at all in the Skrtel rumour. But we have to start keeping our better players.

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